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This is a really verbose post, but he does get around to alluding to a very good point: if iStuff supported Flash, you could develop in Flash and bypass the App

This is a really verbose post, but he does get around to alluding to a very good point: if iStuff supported Flash, you could develop in Flash and bypass the App Store. I think it's a pretty compelling argument.

exit 17y ago
so what are they going to do about html5 when it can do everything flash can do?
- mrvir 17y ago
  They can totally CONTROL what html5 can do in their devices.
  - lurch_mojoff 17y ago
    More importantly they can control how well it does what it does.
    - hugs 17y ago
      If you have an iPad, check out http://touch.sproutcore.com/ http://touch.sproutcore.com/ and http://touch.sproutcore.com/hedwig/ http://touch.sproutcore.com/hedwig/ The HTML5/JavaScript layer is already working very well, and Apple is investing time and effort to making it better. (Learned about those demo apps at the most recent JSConf in D.C.)
- glhaynes 17y ago
  I don't think they see HTML5 as a threat to "Apps" because there's no way now or on even the distant horizon to sell HTML5 apps via a single tap.
- jsz0 17y ago
  They'll focus on making iPhone OS the best mobile HTML5 platform.
- jrockway 17y ago
  Don't worry, Apple has a lot of "HTML5" features that the other mobile platforms don't. Embrace and extend.
  - mrvir 17y ago
    This is exactly what bothers me: Talking about open standards and then making their own versions of them. The Redmond strategy. Makes me want say the same comment about Jobs open standards sweet talk as he made about Google's slogan... That's BS.
rimantas 17y ago
you could develop in Flash and bypass the App Store. Well, if Apple were making a bulk of money from App Store this point would hold. But Apple does not: they are making money on hardware. Anything that helps to sell hardware is good. Flash would make iP* seem unreliable and battery hungry—bad. Hence, no Flash.
- juhgfghjklkjhg 17y ago
  Flash means that a killer app/sitethat got famous on the back of iPhone/iPad sales would next year be available on any phone. Apple aren't in the business of letting other people into their market - it's exactly the same reason MS tried to replace Java with an MS-only C#
- steadicat 17y ago
  Also, no Flash means apps have to be iP* specific, which forces people to buy Apple hardware to run them.

exit 17y ago

so what are they going to do about html5 when it can do everything flash can do?

mrvir 17y ago
They can totally CONTROL what html5 can do in their devices.
- lurch_mojoff 17y ago
  More importantly they can control how well it does what it does.
  - hugs 17y ago
    If you have an iPad, check out http://touch.sproutcore.com/ http://touch.sproutcore.com/ and http://touch.sproutcore.com/hedwig/ http://touch.sproutcore.com/hedwig/ The HTML5/JavaScript layer is already working very well, and Apple is investing time and effort to making it better. (Learned about those demo apps at the most recent JSConf in D.C.)
glhaynes 17y ago
I don't think they see HTML5 as a threat to "Apps" because there's no way now or on even the distant horizon to sell HTML5 apps via a single tap.
jsz0 17y ago
They'll focus on making iPhone OS the best mobile HTML5 platform.
jrockway 17y ago
Don't worry, Apple has a lot of "HTML5" features that the other mobile platforms don't. Embrace and extend.
- mrvir 17y ago
  This is exactly what bothers me: Talking about open standards and then making their own versions of them. The Redmond strategy. Makes me want say the same comment about Jobs open standards sweet talk as he made about Google's slogan... That's BS.

rimantas 17y ago

you could develop in Flash and bypass the App Store. Well, if Apple were making a bulk of money from App Store this point would hold. But Apple does not: they are making money on hardware. Anything that helps to sell hardware is good. Flash would make iP* seem unreliable and battery hungry—bad. Hence, no Flash.

juhgfghjklkjhg 17y ago
Flash means that a killer app/sitethat got famous on the back of iPhone/iPad sales would next year be available on any phone. Apple aren't in the business of letting other people into their market - it's exactly the same reason MS tried to replace Java with an MS-only C#
steadicat 17y ago
Also, no Flash means apps have to be iP* specific, which forces people to buy Apple hardware to run them.