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> What country do you live in that's solved the healthcare and unemployment problem? What has unemployment to do here? Are you saying that with no taxes, there

> What country do you live in that's solved the healthcare and unemployment problem? What has unemployment to do here? Are you saying that with no taxes, there is no unemployment? (for reference, I live in France) > how is that "pay[ing] for their part"? This is exactly paying for their part: everybody feel their effort as the same as their neighbor. And if you're about to say that poor people are abusing that and stay poor on purpose: find me a poor person that refuses a billion dollar if you offer them. Or even who refuses to earn more than currently, for the matter.

Chris2048 10y ago
I'm linking "people in the street" to unemployment, because you didn't mention how it relates to taxes. Make statements like "I live in a country where we're not OK seeing" only if the solutions to these problems in your own country is stable - many European countries aren't clearly so, so the idea that these are just matters of public choice isn't fair. Choice WP snippets: "The French healthcare system was named by the WHO as the best performing system in the world" "the rising cost of the system has been a source of concern" The latter seems to be a common problem, and is what I mean by "stable". > everybody feel their effort as the same as their neighbor If this is true, do the rich use public services proportionally more wrt their tax contributions? What does "feel" the same as their neighbor mean - a service costs $10, my neighbor pays $1.50, I pay $8.50, which is fair because I earn more? Who says I didn't work harder in order to earn more; Where does my neighbor share the burden in that? Maybe I contribute more value to society, which is why I earn more; Why is my reward for that reduced? Aren't the fixed tax band fairly arbitrary? Let's actually work to reduce corruption and un-fair money-making, but otherwise tax people in proportion to the value they get from society.

Chris2048 10y ago

I'm linking "people in the street" to unemployment, because you didn't mention how it relates to taxes. Make statements like "I live in a country where we're not OK seeing" only if the solutions to these problems in your own country is stable - many European countries aren't clearly so, so the idea that these are just matters of public choice isn't fair. Choice WP snippets: "The French healthcare system was named by the WHO as the best performing system in the world" "the rising cost of the system has been a source of concern" The latter seems to be a common problem, and is what I mean by "stable". > everybody feel their effort as the same as their neighbor If this is true, do the rich use public services proportionally more wrt their tax contributions? What does "feel" the same as their neighbor mean - a service costs $10, my neighbor pays $1.50, I pay $8.50, which is fair because I earn more? Who says I didn't work harder in order to earn more; Where does my neighbor share the burden in that? Maybe I contribute more value to society, which is why I earn more; Why is my reward for that reduced? Aren't the fixed tax band fairly arbitrary? Let's actually work to reduce corruption and un-fair money-making, but otherwise tax people in proportion to the value they get from society.