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Nothing can beat the 1 year free for AWS free tier.

by dxxvi 10y ago

dx034 10y ago
Full ack. I don't understand why GCE doesn't have the same offer there. Their free trial is too short to really test it. If you're a developer and experimenting with cloud offers on side projects, AWS is often free. That way a lot of people have some experience using AWS. I'm sure the free trial pays off well for Amazon.
- tobltobs 10y ago
  The AWS free tier is useless imho. If the thing you want to test fits into the AWS free tier then a AWS or GCloud solution would be overkill anyway.
  - dx034 10y ago
    But it's good if you just test a bit as a developer. Not to check if a project is valid, but to gain some experience. That way, if you hire as a company, developers more likely have AWS experience than GCE/Azure experience.
    - jsolson 10y ago
      I don't agree on the free trial. I think it lets you play around a lot more than the AWS free tier -- as I said in my comment up the thread, go ahead and move the slider to the right and scale up a bit (a little -- the free trial is still quota limited to prevent abuse), see how things perform, slide it back to the left and have only used a tiny fraction of your credit. I think you get a lot more "kick the tires" flexibility with a moderately large up-front credit. (affiliation: I'm an engineer on Compute Engine)
jsolson 10y ago
Depending on how you use the services the AWS free tier is actually worth less than GCP's $300 free-trial credit: https://cloud.google.com/free-trial/ https://cloud.google.com/free-trial/ I will give Amazon that theirs extends out to a year, but summing up the costs of everything included in the free tier if you use all of it, I think it may still come out to less than $300 (or the equivalents on GCP would, anyway). For example, running an f1-micro for a year will cost you a bit under $60. If you add in another for Google Cloud SQL you're up to a total of about $150 over the course of a year. What they offer you in S3 is basically free (<$2 over the course of a year). It's possible the other services are a better deal than compute and storage, if you have a use for them, but the GCP free trial lets you allocate that $300 however you like. You can scale up more in that 60 days than you can within the AWS free tier. To me, personally, this strikes me as more valuable if I'm trying to sketch out a new product — I'd rather not try to figure out how to fit inside the AWS free tier resource envelope and instead understand how my costs are scaling with the resources I'm using while not being on the hook for those costs (up to the $300 size of the credit, obviously) for the first couple months. Especially to absorb things like shaking out automation -- go ahead, spin up a GKE cluster, scale it out to 5x the size you currently need, run some quick load tests, and then scale it back down 30 minutes later (and only pay for that 30 minutes). (affiliation: I'm an engineer on Compute Engine)

Nothing can beat the 1 year free for AWS free tier.

by dxxvi 10y ago

Nothing can beat the 1 year free for AWS free tier.

dx034 10y ago

Full ack. I don't understand why GCE doesn't have the same offer there. Their free trial is too short to really test it. If you're a developer and experimenting with cloud offers on side projects, AWS is often free. That way a lot of people have some experience using AWS. I'm sure the free trial pays off well for Amazon.

tobltobs 10y ago
The AWS free tier is useless imho. If the thing you want to test fits into the AWS free tier then a AWS or GCloud solution would be overkill anyway.
- dx034 10y ago
  But it's good if you just test a bit as a developer. Not to check if a project is valid, but to gain some experience. That way, if you hire as a company, developers more likely have AWS experience than GCE/Azure experience.
  - jsolson 10y ago
    I don't agree on the free trial. I think it lets you play around a lot more than the AWS free tier -- as I said in my comment up the thread, go ahead and move the slider to the right and scale up a bit (a little -- the free trial is still quota limited to prevent abuse), see how things perform, slide it back to the left and have only used a tiny fraction of your credit. I think you get a lot more "kick the tires" flexibility with a moderately large up-front credit. (affiliation: I'm an engineer on Compute Engine)

jsolson 10y ago

Depending on how you use the services the AWS free tier is actually worth less than GCP's $300 free-trial credit: https://cloud.google.com/free-trial/ https://cloud.google.com/free-trial/ I will give Amazon that theirs extends out to a year, but summing up the costs of everything included in the free tier if you use all of it, I think it may still come out to less than $300 (or the equivalents on GCP would, anyway). For example, running an f1-micro for a year will cost you a bit under $60. If you add in another for Google Cloud SQL you're up to a total of about $150 over the course of a year. What they offer you in S3 is basically free (<$2 over the course of a year). It's possible the other services are a better deal than compute and storage, if you have a use for them, but the GCP free trial lets you allocate that $300 however you like. You can scale up more in that 60 days than you can within the AWS free tier. To me, personally, this strikes me as more valuable if I'm trying to sketch out a new product — I'd rather not try to figure out how to fit inside the AWS free tier resource envelope and instead understand how my costs are scaling with the resources I'm using while not being on the hook for those costs (up to the $300 size of the credit, obviously) for the first couple months. Especially to absorb things like shaking out automation -- go ahead, spin up a GKE cluster, scale it out to 5x the size you currently need, run some quick load tests, and then scale it back down 30 minutes later (and only pay for that 30 minutes). (affiliation: I'm an engineer on Compute Engine)