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And better products and better design
by napierzaza 16y ago
And better products and better design
- rbanffy 16y agoMicrosoft's keyboards are much better than Apple's
- catch23 16y agoEh, depends on the person. I prefer smaller keyboards like the happy hacker keyboard. Apple has a bluetooth version of it which I love. I prefer keyboards that are laptop-style (shallow key depth).
- rbanffy 16y agoI would love a "Natural Happy Hacker Ergonomic Keyboard".
- robin_reala 16y agoMicrosoft’s mice certainly are.
- rbanffy 16y agoThat latest Apple multi-touch mouse is very nice.
- steveklabnik 16y agoI voted you back up to 1. Keep expressing your preferences. I don't know why you were downvoted.
- robin_reala 16y agoHaving tried to use one for an afternoon I found it gave me hand cramp. I think my problem though is with heavy mice in general, which is why I tend to avoid wireless ones (batteries add appreciable weight). What I don’t understand is why Apple haven’t done a standalone version of their Macbook trackpads. I’d buy one of those for sure.
- bemmu 16y agoThe tiny wireless Apple keyboard is the best keyboard ever.
- fr0man 16y agoMaybe from a hardware perspective, but not from a usability perspective. No right control key. No page up or page down. No home or end. No delete key. No number keypad. I was in love with the ergonomics of it...for about a day.
- zefhous 16y agoHome and end are function-left/function-right, Page up/down are function up/down, and what you're calling "delete" (Apple calls it forward delete) is function-delete. This is how the whole line of Apple portables are... Not sure how those work if you're not using a Mac. Maybe you can remap the right Option to Control? Control isn't near as important for most Mac users since Macs use Command where windows uses Control.
- fr0man 16y agoI'm using it for both. I find it tolerable under OSX (precisely because of the Command key thing), though I don't like chording for things when there's a perfectly good one key option (like delete, home and end). And how do you Shift+Home/End for selecting? I forget, I know it's possible, but it's also a pain. I finally just punted and bought a Logitech Wave for it. I like it much better.
- KirinDave 16y agoYou have a curious definition of keyboard usability. I was unaware key presence was keyboard usability.
- fr0man 16y agoPerhaps you're right. I guess it's more of a keyboard efficiency thing. I can still DO everything I can on a full keyboard, just much less efficiently.
- codingthewheel 16y agoRight. Like that monument to best-practices software development, iTunes for Windows.
- rbanffy 16y agoI am pretty sure that's because they couldn't bother to port Cocoa to Windows.
- ryoshu 16y agoiTunes isn't built on Cocoa: http://daringfireball.net/2009/09/itunes_and_cocoa http://daringfireball.net/2009/09/itunes_and_cocoa
- rbanffy 16y agoAnd that's why iTunes is so bad - because it shares code with the Windows version that can't be Cocoa.
- JamieEi 16y agoLots of people write great code on Windows. There's no reason why Apple couldn't too, if it cared.
- rbanffy 16y agoI agree they could make the core cross-platform and build platform-specific GUIs, but, apart from making Windows appear to suck less when compared to Macs, what would they gain from it? I don't particularly like iTunes, but it does two jobs for Apple: it syncs iPods and makes Windows look bad.
- bruceboughton 16y agoI often hear people beating down on iTunes on Windows. Can someone explain what is wrong with it? I understand that it's not based on Cocoa, but aside from that what problems does it have?
- baguasquirrel 16y agoThat possibly makes them more dangerous.
- rbanffy 16y agoEvil and competent make a potent mixture...
- ecaradec 16y ago"be evil" could be quite a fun motto
- nielsandersen 16y agoApple: "Think Evil"
- rbanffy 16y agoThere: http://www.dieblinkenlights.com/blog_en/think-evil http://www.dieblinkenlights.com/blog_en/think-evil
- MaysonL 16y ago"Evil Plans are best!" http://gapingvoid.com/2010/04/22/daily-bizcard-03-david-brain/ http://gapingvoid.com/2010/04/22/daily-bizcard-03-david-brai... http://gapingvoid.com/ep http://gapingvoid.com/ep
- malvim 16y agoAgreed. It's just silly to claim "better marketing" is what make people like Apple. Windows is still the most widely used consumer OS in the market: That's also marketing. OSX is great software, the iPhone is a great product, the original Macintosh changed computing forever. That, IMHO, is not "just better marketing".