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If that is true, then they should present evidence of such action and ban it! Applying rules with extremely heavy discrimination is never the way to manage a co

If that is true, then they should present evidence of such action and ban it! Applying rules with extremely heavy discrimination is never the way to manage a community.

meritt 10y ago
They have, overwhelmingly. The problem is it's an anonymous platform and bans are irrelevant for most internet users today. This was all nicely summarized by John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory in 2004.
- michaelvoz 10y ago
  Pardon, I should have been clearer - ban the subreddit.
  - ajkjk 10y ago
    I think they wish they could but are avoiding doing that if they can due to the (much more) immense backlash that would ensue. Which seems, well, reasonable to me.
- michaelvoz 10y ago
  Was not familiar with the theory - I disagree with it. This site is a wonderful example of the opposite. My experience with reddit (6+ year old account, at this point) is that, just like in life, most people on reddit are fine. The illusion of toxicity comes from a large vocal minority.
  - meritt 10y ago
    HN isn't really. Take any thread which talks politics and you'll notice it gets flagged, removed very quickly. HN works because it's heavily moderated. It's the equivalent of "No politics discussion!" instilled by many American families over this Thanksgiving. Even with the tech topics: Try talking about the positives of PHP and you'll also see this community has a lot of hostility beneath the surface.
  - freehunter 10y ago
    HN has made me leave several times for being so god damned ridiculous. We're not special. Wander into any Apple, Google, or Microsoft thread and watch the idiocy. Or anything to do with poliics (not even US politics, I've seen so many flame wars about countries I didn't even know existed).
icanhackit 10y ago
> they should present evidence of such action and ban it! How would they do that adequately without a public display of user activity? > Applying rules with extremely heavy discrimination is never the way to manage a community. It's less than ideal but when the targeted group seeks to ultimately control or destroy your platform then what you have is a cancer that will spread unless it's removed.

If that is true, then they should present evidence of such action and ban it! Applying rules with extremely heavy discrimination is never the way to manage a community.

meritt 10y ago

They have, overwhelmingly. The problem is it's an anonymous platform and bans are irrelevant for most internet users today. This was all nicely summarized by John Gabriel's Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory in 2004.

michaelvoz 10y ago
Pardon, I should have been clearer - ban the subreddit.
- ajkjk 10y ago
  I think they wish they could but are avoiding doing that if they can due to the (much more) immense backlash that would ensue. Which seems, well, reasonable to me.
michaelvoz 10y ago
Was not familiar with the theory - I disagree with it. This site is a wonderful example of the opposite. My experience with reddit (6+ year old account, at this point) is that, just like in life, most people on reddit are fine. The illusion of toxicity comes from a large vocal minority.
- meritt 10y ago
  HN isn't really. Take any thread which talks politics and you'll notice it gets flagged, removed very quickly. HN works because it's heavily moderated. It's the equivalent of "No politics discussion!" instilled by many American families over this Thanksgiving. Even with the tech topics: Try talking about the positives of PHP and you'll also see this community has a lot of hostility beneath the surface.
- freehunter 10y ago
  HN has made me leave several times for being so god damned ridiculous. We're not special. Wander into any Apple, Google, or Microsoft thread and watch the idiocy. Or anything to do with poliics (not even US politics, I've seen so many flame wars about countries I didn't even know existed).

icanhackit 10y ago

> they should present evidence of such action and ban it! How would they do that adequately without a public display of user activity? > Applying rules with extremely heavy discrimination is never the way to manage a community. It's less than ideal but when the targeted group seeks to ultimately control or destroy your platform then what you have is a cancer that will spread unless it's removed.