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As someone who has first hand experienced cheating in interviews I think this is an extremely good move. I know some people in bay area who are making > $100k
by tn13 10y ago
As someone who has first hand experienced cheating in interviews I think this is an extremely good move.
I know some people in bay area who are making > $100k in cash (no taxes paid) just by answering screening interviews on other people's behalf.
This is called "interview by proxy" and the person generally takes first month's salary as remuneration in cash.
- sbierwagen 10y agoI find this hard to believe. The only hit for "interview by proxy" relevant to technical interviewing seems to be a TDWTF article.
- pavlov 10y agoIf an employer is so disorganized that this doesn't become obvious during the first month of working there, they probably have much greater problems than cheating on their idiotic cargo cult coding tests, and fixing the cheating would do absolutely nothing to save the company.
- brianwawok 10y ago"Wow funny how you were an Asian woman on the phone screen, and the first day of work you are a white male. Oh well, must just be a mistake"
- andrewguenther 10y ago"this doesn't become obvious during the first month of working there" This is a gross oversimplification of the problem. Do you know how difficult it is to fire a person? Do you know how much it costs to hire someone? You've given this person a relocation bonus, possibly put in the work to set up a visa, given the first chunk of a signing bonus....
- slededit 10y agoWhile still not cheap in total, Amazon has a 2 year clawback in their relo bonus.
- flukus 10y agoIsn't lying on during the job interview, especially to this extent, a fireable offense just about everywhere?
- staticautomatic 10y agoI'm so tired of the assertion that it's "difficult" to fire someone, even insofar as "difficult" means "HR won't allow it." HR's reasons are stupid, particularly if you're in a so-called "right to work" state. I work on multi-million dollar lawsuits for a living, and in every single employment suit I've worked on involving an individual who was fired from a large organization, that person had already been through some kind of PIP.
- paulcole 10y agoHow are you defining "right to work" in this context? I thought that had to do with not requiring employees to join a labor union?
- staticautomatic 10y agoIt does. I'm talking about the fact that the fictional employee we're talking about is most likely non-union in a right to work state, thereby making it easier to fire them (without union intervention).
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- tn13 10y agoYou have no idea how deep the rot is. Here is a classic scenario I know of. Large ships have plenty of space for rats to hide. Large American Inc. is a large company we all know off and which is always somewhere on the front page for some news. Mr X is a manager there how arrived from India on H1B and now perhaps has a green card. Mr. X brings his younger brother Mr. Y on F1 visa. Mr. Y then joins a consultancy. Consultancy claims Mr. Y has 8 years of experience, knew AngularJS before it was invented (true story) etc. and submits it to Large American Inc. for a project that Mr. X is spearheading. The consultancy then send a proxy for phone screen and real interviews. The consultancy, Mr. X and Mr. Y all pull a lot of strings here. favours are exchanged. Mr. Y then joins Large American Inc. as a consultant with a salary of $120K under Mr. X. Mr. X and Mr. Y conceal the fact that they are closely related. In many cases consultancy hires another person in India whose job is to give 24x7 phone support whenever Mr. Y has to do his work. Screenshare etc.
- kilroy123 10y agoWhy would you cheat, though? You're going to get the job and probably be completely incapable of doing the work. Not to mention there's usually an in-person tech interview afterward.
- tn13 10y agoI did not cheat Sir/Ma'am. I caught someone else chit.