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> can take control back at any time but if you're going down the highway and the AI decides to suddenly swing the wheel far right as quickly as possible, no hu

> can take control back at any time but if you're going down the highway and the AI decides to suddenly swing the wheel far right as quickly as possible, no human being would have reaction time good enough to recover without crashing. I'd be pretty concerned if you could add an autopilot to your car and drive it around on public roads without any sort of demonstration of safety.

espes 10y ago
> but if you're going down the highway and the AI decides to suddenly swing the wheel far right as quickly as possible, no human being would have reaction time good enough to recover without crashing "The EPS controller in the car limits the torque to a very small amount, so regardless of the message, the controller cannot jerk the wheel" [1] [1] https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/blob/master/SAFETY.md https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/blob/master/SAFETY.md
ams6110 10y ago
People are allowed to work on their own cars, including brakes, suspension, steering, etc. Happens every day in driveways everywhere. I do it myself.
- serge2k 10y ago
  So if I decide to do a bunch of suspension work and then don't bother to get any sort of alignment done am I liable when I get into an accident?
  - ams6110 10y ago
    Yes, IMO.
- openasocket 10y ago
  But there are restrictions of what parts you can use. I can't just make my own engine and drive around with it without getting that engine certified, right?
  - ams6110 10y ago
    I don't know of any reason why not. Certified by who? Who would ever know? I can put a Chevy engine in a Ford, and plenty of people do much more than that, e.g. homebrew EVs, etc.
  - mplewis 10y ago
    This is automobiles, not general aviation. You don't have to get your engine certified to drive it on public roads, but you might have to pass emissions.
darawk 10y ago
Ya, not arguing that it's a good idea. Just that I think it is technically legal.

espes 10y ago

> but if you're going down the highway and the AI decides to suddenly swing the wheel far right as quickly as possible, no human being would have reaction time good enough to recover without crashing "The EPS controller in the car limits the torque to a very small amount, so regardless of the message, the controller cannot jerk the wheel" [1] [1] https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/blob/master/SAFETY.md https://github.com/commaai/openpilot/blob/master/SAFETY.md

ams6110 10y ago

People are allowed to work on their own cars, including brakes, suspension, steering, etc. Happens every day in driveways everywhere. I do it myself.

serge2k 10y ago
So if I decide to do a bunch of suspension work and then don't bother to get any sort of alignment done am I liable when I get into an accident?
- ams6110 10y ago
  Yes, IMO.
openasocket 10y ago
But there are restrictions of what parts you can use. I can't just make my own engine and drive around with it without getting that engine certified, right?
- ams6110 10y ago
  I don't know of any reason why not. Certified by who? Who would ever know? I can put a Chevy engine in a Ford, and plenty of people do much more than that, e.g. homebrew EVs, etc.
- mplewis 10y ago
  This is automobiles, not general aviation. You don't have to get your engine certified to drive it on public roads, but you might have to pass emissions.

darawk 10y ago

Ya, not arguing that it's a good idea. Just that I think it is technically legal.