I'm not avoiding your argument. I'm telling you it's fallacious. Technologies don't come and go according to whether they're better or worse than other technol

I'm not avoiding your argument. I'm telling you it's fallacious. Technologies don't come and go according to whether they're better or worse than other technologies. They really don't. They come and go according to whether enough people decide to use them, or engage with them, or develop them, and so on. If it were as you say then no-one would be using php, which plenty of people would agree is 'worse' than its alternatives. I mean, you're sort of right. Your argument is just missing a step. It may be that Django's difficulty including other toolkits is a weakness. But that only matters when enough people decide it matters. You can call that relativism if you like. It doesn't make any difference. But it could just be that Django works fine enough. Feel free to point out how wrong I am, but if you do it from a qwerty keyboard (an 'objectively' bad keyboard layout), you'll only be proving my point. Problems are only problems when they're problems for people.