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> But for a complex system, I prefer what Google will produce Having worked there in teams near to their tablets I really think Amazon would have a hard time p

by serge2k 10y ago

> But for a complex system, I prefer what Google will produce Having worked there in teams near to their tablets I really think Amazon would have a hard time producing software of the complexity of Android or Chrome.

newjersey 10y ago
I have a question. Do you think this Amazon culture is the cause or the result of service-oriented architecture at Amazon? Or maybe am I completely off the mark here. I found this quote from SEC filings. Jeff Bezos says: > Service-oriented architecture -- or SOA -- is the fundamental building abstraction for Amazon technologies. This was in 2010. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1018724/000119312511110797/dex991.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1018724/000119312511... It sounds like they have been committed to it at least since 2005? https://s3.amazonaws.com/aws001/trailhead/MigratingAmazonComToAWS.PDF https://s3.amazonaws.com/aws001/trailhead/MigratingAmazonCom... I'd imagine internally it'd have to be a lot sooner than that because I think they were ready to release AWS by 2006. Sorry, I don't mean to start a holy war. I just wonder if there's any connection... What do you think?
- kinkrtyavimoodh 10y ago
  If we use Steve Yegge's famous rant for reference, it goes back to 2002. https://plus.google.com/+RipRowan/posts/eVeouesvaVX https://plus.google.com/+RipRowan/posts/eVeouesvaVX
  - deadbunny 10y ago
    Great read, thanks.
jknoepfler 10y ago
you mean like the Amazon retail site?
amaks 10y ago
To be fair, Amazon has developed a Silk browser for their Kindle Fire tablets.
- cle 10y ago
  Silk is a fork of Chromium, Amazon just piggy-backed on Google's hard work. Just like Fire OS itself (a fork of Android).
  - inflagranti 10y ago
    You mean the way Google piggy-packed on Apples work which in turn piggy-backed on KDEs work? Amazon did an extension to optimise rendering on small devices, which is complexity wise not too far off to what Apple & Google contributed to the rendering engines, which at the end is the tricky bit an a browser, not the Chrome.
    - serge2k 10y ago
      No. Google contributed massive amounts to the webkit code and built a full browser around it (including a state of the art javascript engine). Silk is a different story.
    - inflagranti 10y ago
      Really don't understand the downvotes. Whether they gave back to the community or not is another story, but they did piggy-back on previous code, even though adding a lot themselves and giving back a lot, but it still built on massive existing work.
tomascot 10y ago
I'm not so sure, if Amazon develops it's own logistics solutions I would say that those are a bit more complicated than Chrome.

by serge2k 10y ago

newjersey 10y ago

I have a question. Do you think this Amazon culture is the cause or the result of service-oriented architecture at Amazon? Or maybe am I completely off the mark here. I found this quote from SEC filings. Jeff Bezos says: > Service-oriented architecture -- or SOA -- is the fundamental building abstraction for Amazon technologies. This was in 2010. https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1018724/000119312511110797/dex991.htm https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1018724/000119312511... It sounds like they have been committed to it at least since 2005? https://s3.amazonaws.com/aws001/trailhead/MigratingAmazonComToAWS.PDF https://s3.amazonaws.com/aws001/trailhead/MigratingAmazonCom... I'd imagine internally it'd have to be a lot sooner than that because I think they were ready to release AWS by 2006. Sorry, I don't mean to start a holy war. I just wonder if there's any connection... What do you think?

kinkrtyavimoodh 10y ago
If we use Steve Yegge's famous rant for reference, it goes back to 2002. https://plus.google.com/+RipRowan/posts/eVeouesvaVX https://plus.google.com/+RipRowan/posts/eVeouesvaVX
- deadbunny 10y ago
  Great read, thanks.

jknoepfler 10y ago

you mean like the Amazon retail site?

amaks 10y ago

To be fair, Amazon has developed a Silk browser for their Kindle Fire tablets.

cle 10y ago
Silk is a fork of Chromium, Amazon just piggy-backed on Google's hard work. Just like Fire OS itself (a fork of Android).
- inflagranti 10y ago
  You mean the way Google piggy-packed on Apples work which in turn piggy-backed on KDEs work? Amazon did an extension to optimise rendering on small devices, which is complexity wise not too far off to what Apple & Google contributed to the rendering engines, which at the end is the tricky bit an a browser, not the Chrome.
  - serge2k 10y ago
    No. Google contributed massive amounts to the webkit code and built a full browser around it (including a state of the art javascript engine). Silk is a different story.
  - inflagranti 10y ago
    Really don't understand the downvotes. Whether they gave back to the community or not is another story, but they did piggy-back on previous code, even though adding a lot themselves and giving back a lot, but it still built on massive existing work.

tomascot 10y ago

I'm not so sure, if Amazon develops it's own logistics solutions I would say that those are a bit more complicated than Chrome.