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This looks interesting. For the past 3 years I've been using ractivejs and really enjoy it. I'm wondering if Svelte will take away development efforts from rac

This looks interesting. For the past 3 years I've been using ractivejs and really enjoy it. I'm wondering if Svelte will take away development efforts from ractivejs? OT >The web's obesity crisis, solved. Svelte turns your templates into tiny, framework-less vanilla JavaScript. Made me think of [idlewords][1] website obesity presentation... [1]:http://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm http://idlewords.com/talks/website_obesity.htm

draw_down 10y ago
I think Rollup already took time away from Ractive. It's really too bad, I think Ractive has some great ideas and I really enjoyed working with it. It was the best way to build web UIs I've come across. But I feel its future is uncertain so it's hard to recommend others begin using it.
- TeMPOraL 10y ago
  > I feel its future is uncertain so it's hard to recommend others begin using it. Self-fulfilling prophecy unfortunately.
  - draw_down 10y ago
    Perhaps, but at least to the team I was working with at the time, Rollup indicated we shouldn't expect much to change or improve in Ractive. I think Ractive was partially a victim of timing; as Harris himself has said, it has many of the same ideas as React and he may well not have made it if React existed when he began. And it never really seemed to gain much popularity which you kind of need for a project to grow beyond just its creator. I still haven't investigated this new thing, but if it was indeed inspired by Ractive that gives me hope.
    - goliatone 10y ago
      >but if it was indeed inspired by Ractive that gives me hope Actually, I would like to see the author's thoughts on ractive vs svelte. From the outside svelte is very reminiscent of ractive. [EDIT] +\n
- goliatone 10y ago
  Actually, ractivejs as it is right now is pretty mature, so I will still use it. The ecosystem and momentum behind it could suffer from a _shift in focus_ from /u/rich_harris- the creator of both libs- but the library has flown under the radar all this time so I feel it might not be a huge change.

draw_down 10y ago

I think Rollup already took time away from Ractive. It's really too bad, I think Ractive has some great ideas and I really enjoyed working with it. It was the best way to build web UIs I've come across. But I feel its future is uncertain so it's hard to recommend others begin using it.

TeMPOraL 10y ago
> I feel its future is uncertain so it's hard to recommend others begin using it. Self-fulfilling prophecy unfortunately.
- draw_down 10y ago
  Perhaps, but at least to the team I was working with at the time, Rollup indicated we shouldn't expect much to change or improve in Ractive. I think Ractive was partially a victim of timing; as Harris himself has said, it has many of the same ideas as React and he may well not have made it if React existed when he began. And it never really seemed to gain much popularity which you kind of need for a project to grow beyond just its creator. I still haven't investigated this new thing, but if it was indeed inspired by Ractive that gives me hope.
  - goliatone 10y ago
    >but if it was indeed inspired by Ractive that gives me hope Actually, I would like to see the author's thoughts on ractive vs svelte. From the outside svelte is very reminiscent of ractive. [EDIT] +\n
goliatone 10y ago
Actually, ractivejs as it is right now is pretty mature, so I will still use it. The ecosystem and momentum behind it could suffer from a _shift in focus_ from /u/rich_harris- the creator of both libs- but the library has flown under the radar all this time so I feel it might not be a huge change.