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"Apple has proven they are no longer interested in making a computer for the high-end professional" [citation needed] "Is updated I/O and the opportunity to b

by al2o3cr 10y ago

"Apple has proven they are no longer interested in making a computer for the high-end professional" [citation needed] "Is updated I/O and the opportunity to buy a third-party 5K display enough to sell us on a future Mac Pro?" I dunno, is a tiny change in sheetmetal design and slight interior tweaks enough to sell people on [future model of some car]? Articles like this would be vastly improved if they updated their premise from "APPLE IZ ABANDONING PROOOOOOZZ" to "Apple isn't making the gear we're hoping for, here's our alternative pick and a summary of how it better meets our needs".

ivraatiems 10y ago
> "Apple has proven they are no longer interested in making a computer for the high-end professional" > [citation needed] No, not really. They've said and done nothing to support this market since the Mac Pro came out, therefore, it's reasonable to conclude they don't care about it. I think the premise is fine; if you like a company and you want them to produce a product you'll use, there's nothing wrong with saying so. It might be a futile effort, granted, but it's still legitimate.
- IBM 10y ago
  Welcome to Apple post-Steve Jobs return. Apple smartly hasn't Osborne'd their products since then and the mood swings of some Apple fans is unlikely to change that. >They've said and done nothing to support this market since the Mac Pro came out, therefore, it's reasonable to conclude they don't care about it. Yes except for the fact that they continue to sell them. Apple hasn't also stated how long they'll continue to make and sell new iPhones for either.
  - ivraatiems 10y ago
    > Yes except for the fact that they continue to sell them. Apple hasn't also stated how long they'll continue to make and sell new iPhones for either. Not a fair comparison - iPhones are updated every year. "We don't mind selling you this" is not the same as "we are actively invested in this." They are clearly NOT supporting the market with the Mac Pro they have now; whether it is being actively sold or not isn't the point. It's like Google's many many halfway-dead apps: people use them, they're online, but no new development is happening.
    - IBM 10y ago
      Wait for supply chain rumors (if they even happen given its low volume and US-based manufacturing) to find out if there's going to be a new Mac Pro. You're not going to get any official information about Apple's roadmap from them. Anyone actually in the market for a Mac Pro is probably aware that the Skylake based Xeons won't be out until some time around WWDC.
John23832 10y ago
To be fair, this isn't an article. It's a blog post. So while I agree that it should be more substantive, the same standards don't apply.
hartator 10y ago
Of course, you won't have Tim Cook come forward with a statement - "We don't care about pro." But, look at Microsoft last keynote vs Apple last keynote, you can feel Apple is not passionate anymore whereas Microsoft seems to be. But, look at stock prices. Microsoft is up 9% in a year when Apple is -5% same dates. Finally, look at the new MacBook Pro. The TouchBar is a fun gimmick, but is anyone going to use it more than a glorified slider? I am saying that as big Apple fan. But, lying about the truth won't make Apple great again.

by al2o3cr 10y ago

ivraatiems 10y ago

> "Apple has proven they are no longer interested in making a computer for the high-end professional" > [citation needed] No, not really. They've said and done nothing to support this market since the Mac Pro came out, therefore, it's reasonable to conclude they don't care about it. I think the premise is fine; if you like a company and you want them to produce a product you'll use, there's nothing wrong with saying so. It might be a futile effort, granted, but it's still legitimate.

IBM 10y ago
Welcome to Apple post-Steve Jobs return. Apple smartly hasn't Osborne'd their products since then and the mood swings of some Apple fans is unlikely to change that. >They've said and done nothing to support this market since the Mac Pro came out, therefore, it's reasonable to conclude they don't care about it. Yes except for the fact that they continue to sell them. Apple hasn't also stated how long they'll continue to make and sell new iPhones for either.
- ivraatiems 10y ago
  > Yes except for the fact that they continue to sell them. Apple hasn't also stated how long they'll continue to make and sell new iPhones for either. Not a fair comparison - iPhones are updated every year. "We don't mind selling you this" is not the same as "we are actively invested in this." They are clearly NOT supporting the market with the Mac Pro they have now; whether it is being actively sold or not isn't the point. It's like Google's many many halfway-dead apps: people use them, they're online, but no new development is happening.
  - IBM 10y ago
    Wait for supply chain rumors (if they even happen given its low volume and US-based manufacturing) to find out if there's going to be a new Mac Pro. You're not going to get any official information about Apple's roadmap from them. Anyone actually in the market for a Mac Pro is probably aware that the Skylake based Xeons won't be out until some time around WWDC.

John23832 10y ago

To be fair, this isn't an article. It's a blog post. So while I agree that it should be more substantive, the same standards don't apply.

hartator 10y ago

Of course, you won't have Tim Cook come forward with a statement - "We don't care about pro." But, look at Microsoft last keynote vs Apple last keynote, you can feel Apple is not passionate anymore whereas Microsoft seems to be. But, look at stock prices. Microsoft is up 9% in a year when Apple is -5% same dates. Finally, look at the new MacBook Pro. The TouchBar is a fun gimmick, but is anyone going to use it more than a glorified slider? I am saying that as big Apple fan. But, lying about the truth won't make Apple great again.