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Hey that's not fair. How will I make my US friends feel bad about paying so much for the same or worse education as I got for free in Europe? My favorite effec

by Swizec 10y ago

Hey that's not fair. How will I make my US friends feel bad about paying so much for the same or worse education as I got for free in Europe? My favorite effect of this social difference between [most of?] EU versus [most of?] US is that in non-england Europe, paying for private schooling means you're dumb and can't earn good grades without paying for them. In the US few non-private universities are considered truly legit. Always a fun pub or thanksgiving dinner conversation.

hood_syntax 10y ago
I feel like a good amount of the top tier are public a la UC Berkeley, UPenn.
- Swizec 10y ago
  Don't those charge many dollars in tuition despite being public? UC Berkeley is $13k/year according to their site. For comparison, my european public uni was 50eur/year for enrollment fees. LMU Munich, #1 uni in germany, is 110eur/year in mandatory fees.
  - hood_syntax 10y ago
    They certainly are nowhere near as cheap as universities in Europe, but they are comparatively affordable. UC Berkeley's tuition, for example, I would put in the middle of public universities, and likely anywhere from 10-30k less than most private ones
    - ant6n 10y ago
      Still unlikely to graduate without debt unless your parents are loaded
- rrdharan 10y ago
  UPenn is private.
  - hood_syntax 10y ago
    Hah, shows how much I know about our universities...
justin66 10y ago
> In the US few non-private universities are considered truly legit. You have no idea what you're talking about.
eli_gottlieb 10y ago
>My favorite effect of this social difference between [most of?] EU versus [most of?] US is that in non-england Europe, paying for private schooling means you're dumb and can't earn good grades without paying for them. In the US few non-private universities are considered truly legit. Ditto in Israel. Small "academic colleges" are second-tier public institutions. Privately-owned colleges are for people who really can't do well on matriculation exams. The best universities are the six big state-owned ones.

by Swizec 10y ago

hood_syntax 10y ago

I feel like a good amount of the top tier are public a la UC Berkeley, UPenn.

Swizec 10y ago
Don't those charge many dollars in tuition despite being public? UC Berkeley is $13k/year according to their site. For comparison, my european public uni was 50eur/year for enrollment fees. LMU Munich, #1 uni in germany, is 110eur/year in mandatory fees.
- hood_syntax 10y ago
  They certainly are nowhere near as cheap as universities in Europe, but they are comparatively affordable. UC Berkeley's tuition, for example, I would put in the middle of public universities, and likely anywhere from 10-30k less than most private ones
  - ant6n 10y ago
    Still unlikely to graduate without debt unless your parents are loaded
rrdharan 10y ago
UPenn is private.
- hood_syntax 10y ago
  Hah, shows how much I know about our universities...

justin66 10y ago

> In the US few non-private universities are considered truly legit. You have no idea what you're talking about.

eli_gottlieb 10y ago

>My favorite effect of this social difference between [most of?] EU versus [most of?] US is that in non-england Europe, paying for private schooling means you're dumb and can't earn good grades without paying for them. In the US few non-private universities are considered truly legit. Ditto in Israel. Small "academic colleges" are second-tier public institutions. Privately-owned colleges are for people who really can't do well on matriculation exams. The best universities are the six big state-owned ones.