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Vue.js has single file components [1] and template precompilation [2] (or optionally JSX support, which is basically a precompiled template). I don't see the p

Vue.js has single file components [1] and template precompilation [2] (or optionally JSX support, which is basically a precompiled template). I don't see the point of yet another framework here. The "no dependencies" argument seems to fall down for me, since it would seem to me that they would need to duplicate a lot of code for state management and rendering, bloating the code for anything more complex. And if there's some clever tree shaking or whatever going on, than I don't see the point as opposed to just including another JS file... I couldn't find any explanation of what's so different here, worthy of creating another framework for it. Would love to be enlightened! [1] https://vuejs.org/v2/guide/single-file-components.html https://vuejs.org/v2/guide/single-file-components.html [2] https://www.npmjs.com/package/vue-template-compiler https://www.npmjs.com/package/vue-template-compiler

sheeshkebab 10y ago
there is always room for a framework smaller than other frameworks. mature frameworks tend to get bloated overtime, become hard to reason about and learn for new developers. if it wasn't for projects like that we'd be coding in some feature rich ims/cobol framework.
rich_harris 10y ago
As well as generating smaller apps and being quicker to load, Svelte is significantly faster than Vue. We'll be publishing benchmarks soon.
- the_duke 10y ago
  I'd love to see code size and performance comparison for a relatively simple but non trivial component, like a DateTime picker.
  - rich_harris 10y ago
    Yep, we'll be adding more examples soon – definitely on the TODO list. In the meantime you can take a look at our TodoMVC implementation – it's 3.6kb zipped (Vue is 17.2kb without any app code. Not a criticism, just context) https://svelte-todomvc.surge.sh https://svelte-todomvc.surge.sh
Touche 10y ago
So if you want to use a router in Vue what do you do? Well, you install vue-router. The point of Svelte is that it can infer all of the features you are using for you, and not compile the ones that you aren't.

sheeshkebab 10y ago

there is always room for a framework smaller than other frameworks. mature frameworks tend to get bloated overtime, become hard to reason about and learn for new developers. if it wasn't for projects like that we'd be coding in some feature rich ims/cobol framework.

rich_harris 10y ago

As well as generating smaller apps and being quicker to load, Svelte is significantly faster than Vue. We'll be publishing benchmarks soon.

the_duke 10y ago
I'd love to see code size and performance comparison for a relatively simple but non trivial component, like a DateTime picker.
- rich_harris 10y ago
  Yep, we'll be adding more examples soon – definitely on the TODO list. In the meantime you can take a look at our TodoMVC implementation – it's 3.6kb zipped (Vue is 17.2kb without any app code. Not a criticism, just context) https://svelte-todomvc.surge.sh https://svelte-todomvc.surge.sh

Touche 10y ago

So if you want to use a router in Vue what do you do? Well, you install vue-router. The point of Svelte is that it can infer all of the features you are using for you, and not compile the ones that you aren't.