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I was completely shocked that Shami Chakrabart, once the head of Liberty[1] abstained, I thought she was the one ally we definitely had in the bag. I wonder wh

I was completely shocked that Shami Chakrabart, once the head of Liberty[1] abstained, I thought she was the one ally we definitely had in the bag. I wonder what caused the turnaround; same for Jeremy Corbyn, complete U-turn in position in a really short space of time. I mean, I'm trying to resist looking for my tinfoil hat but does anyone know of any agencies that have a decade's worth of everybody's communications history and Meta data that may or may not be used against somebody to sway their opinion on a particular subject? No? Didn't think so. I still feel mad and a bit wrong typing that second paragraph as five years ago it would have just been complete conspiracy theory, but now it's just been passed into law. My country is a disturbing place right now. [1]: https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/ https://www.liberty-human-rights.org.uk/

crdoconnor 10y ago
No need for any tinfoil hats: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/undercover-with-paul-lewis-and-rob-evans/2015/oct/02/police-facing-hard-questions-over-covert-monitoring-of-jeremy-corbyn-and-other-mps https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/undercover-with-paul-lew... " A whistleblower, Peter Francis, has revealed that police compiled secret files on the political activities of Corbyn and nine other MPs, even after they had been elected to the House of Commons. Francis disclosed that he had read the files on the 10 MPs while he worked for the Metropolitan Police’s special branch. He added that he had personally collected information on Corbyn, and two other MPs, while he was working undercover infiltrating anti-racist groups in the 1990s. Read this and this for more details of his revelations that were made in March this year." I don't doubt that the same people who ordered the monitoring of "subversive" anti-racist groups are the same people who are calling him an anti-semite.
- escapologybb 10y ago
  Those motherfunsters. But surely this increases my need for a tinfoil hat, no?
iuguy 10y ago
Chakrabarti's turnaround is a result of her peerage (which in turn was a thankyou for her support in her impartial review into anti-semitism in the Labour party^). She'll obviously tow the Corbyn line, and it's most likely that this line was set by the PLP. There's been talk about Andy Burnham (who's running for Mayor of Manchester) having raised concerns, but ultimately bowed out after being told about safeguards being put in - he never actually checked the safeguards and was apparently somewhat surprised when he found that they didn't actually exist. ^Before anyone says otherwise bear in mind Corbyn refused to nominate people to the Lords based on his opposition to the Lords, and she's the only nominated peer he's put forward, immediately after the review concluded but before the internal election.

crdoconnor 10y ago

No need for any tinfoil hats: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/undercover-with-paul-lewis-and-rob-evans/2015/oct/02/police-facing-hard-questions-over-covert-monitoring-of-jeremy-corbyn-and-other-mps https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/undercover-with-paul-lew... " A whistleblower, Peter Francis, has revealed that police compiled secret files on the political activities of Corbyn and nine other MPs, even after they had been elected to the House of Commons. Francis disclosed that he had read the files on the 10 MPs while he worked for the Metropolitan Police’s special branch. He added that he had personally collected information on Corbyn, and two other MPs, while he was working undercover infiltrating anti-racist groups in the 1990s. Read this and this for more details of his revelations that were made in March this year." I don't doubt that the same people who ordered the monitoring of "subversive" anti-racist groups are the same people who are calling him an anti-semite.

escapologybb 10y ago
Those motherfunsters. But surely this increases my need for a tinfoil hat, no?

iuguy 10y ago

Chakrabarti's turnaround is a result of her peerage (which in turn was a thankyou for her support in her impartial review into anti-semitism in the Labour party^). She'll obviously tow the Corbyn line, and it's most likely that this line was set by the PLP. There's been talk about Andy Burnham (who's running for Mayor of Manchester) having raised concerns, but ultimately bowed out after being told about safeguards being put in - he never actually checked the safeguards and was apparently somewhat surprised when he found that they didn't actually exist. ^Before anyone says otherwise bear in mind Corbyn refused to nominate people to the Lords based on his opposition to the Lords, and she's the only nominated peer he's put forward, immediately after the review concluded but before the internal election.