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Thanks! That's a great list of refences to go through. I actually wanted to have objective references and not just bash the US command. I should have placed mor
by fsloth 10y ago
Thanks! That's a great list of refences to go through. I actually wanted to have objective references and not just bash the US command. I should have placed more emphasis on the stabilizing US actions and not just sheath them under the "UN mandate" phrase. A few comments:
1) & 2) The anti-piracy operations were a nice example of a stabilizing strategy.
3) Civil wars are generally considered internal matters
4) Businesses operating within the allied sphere had vested commercial interests in Russia, see for example http://www.branobelhistory.com/themes/the-branobel-company/The-oil-companies-merge/ http://www.branobelhistory.com/themes/the-branobel-company/T... - which the Bolshevik faction threatened
5) & 8) - Yeah, post Ottoman Middle East is a major fuck up. No idea who benefitted whom there.
6) I have no familiarity with the matter but supporting anti-communist forces within a country would fall under the "dominoes..." template if I had to be brash about forming a quick opinion
7) That's tiny. Yeah, probably under "stabilizing action" just like 1,2. But, no idea really.
9) That's US security more than anything, they were afraid Cuba and Soviet Union would hold Grenada as a forward base - I have to call "dominoes" on that
Of the uncounted:
Korean war - while I'm sure South Korean prefer the current situation, having an economy boosted by vested US interests - from the point of view of US was about holding Soviet Union at bay. Dominoes.
Gulf war. Oil. Oil. Oil oil oil. Street.
Somali civil war was an attempt at a stabilizing action.
Haiti - http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/haiti-us-occupation-hundred-year-anniversary http://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/haiti-us-occupation-... - given the history of US involvement in Haiti I'm sure the 90's intervention was among the most benevolent of them
Bosnia- it's the stabilizing action for which I have to commend the US the most (and am stupefied to this day of the European incompetence in military matters).
Libya - yeah, that did not go so well for anyone.
- bzbarsky 10y agoWhat's interesting to me, and shouldn't be surprising, is that there are domino-theory wars like Korea that at least the South Koreans feel benefited them, and then there are domino-theory wars that didn't really benefit people much. And there are UN-sanctioned things that turned out well, and then there are things like Libya. And the hard part is telling up front which situation you're in... Note that I left off a _long_ list of US military involvement that could not possibly be considered to benefit anything other than maybe US expansion or US business interests. I just listed the ones that might have fit your criteria.