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The war on drugs is not a war that soldiers fight. It's a figure of speech. The war on terror is so-so.

qznc 10y ago
> The war on drugs is not a war that soldiers fight Debatable. The police men / DEA involved probably feel like soldiers sometimes. The drug lords and governments in south america certainly have soldiers involved.
- eponeponepon 10y ago
  They're being trained to think of themselves as soldiers. This will inevitably lead to them being soldiers, and that eventually ends in bog-standard straightforward war, indistinguishable from any waged by "real" soldiers.
  - tracker1 10y ago
    Most soldiers throughout history were not career soldiers or warriors. Most are people brought into the conflict without any intent to be a soldier before whatever brought them in.
- lostboys67 10y ago
  paintball weekend warriors probably think that to but real soldiers consider them "walts"
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humanrebar 10y ago
> The war on drugs is not a war that soldiers fight. There are a lot of decapitations and mass graves for something that isn't a war. If the people fighting aren't soldiers, what are they?
- ptaipale 10y ago
  Criminals. (By the way, soldiers generally don't decapitate enemies these days; doing so is a war crime.)
  - humanrebar 10y ago
    Fair point. Though calling those actions war crimes strengthens the point that there is actually a drug war going on.
    - ptaipale 10y ago
      When drug lords decapitate people, I don't call it a war crime. Just crime. If soldiers wage war and then decapitate people (like Daesh does) then that's a war crime.
  - natermer 10y ago
    Carrying out and enforcing immoral laws makes you as much of a criminal as anybody. The police state doesn't carry out showy public executions like the cartels do, but they have ruined many people's lives for no good reason and they have put plenty of otherwise innocent people in a grave. And guess what? The American people pay for both sides. They pay for the cartels and they pay for the police state. If the war on drugs never existed there wouldn't be any cartels in the first place. It's pure idiocy compounded with greed and profiteering on other people's misery. You can't have the one of the highest percentage of the population in prison and call yourself a free country. It's bold faced contradiction. The USA beats out Turkmenistan FFS.
pjc50 10y ago
It certainly is in Mexico.

qznc 10y ago

> The war on drugs is not a war that soldiers fight Debatable. The police men / DEA involved probably feel like soldiers sometimes. The drug lords and governments in south america certainly have soldiers involved.

eponeponepon 10y ago
They're being trained to think of themselves as soldiers. This will inevitably lead to them being soldiers, and that eventually ends in bog-standard straightforward war, indistinguishable from any waged by "real" soldiers.
- tracker1 10y ago
  Most soldiers throughout history were not career soldiers or warriors. Most are people brought into the conflict without any intent to be a soldier before whatever brought them in.
lostboys67 10y ago
paintball weekend warriors probably think that to but real soldiers consider them "walts"
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humanrebar 10y ago

> The war on drugs is not a war that soldiers fight. There are a lot of decapitations and mass graves for something that isn't a war. If the people fighting aren't soldiers, what are they?

ptaipale 10y ago
Criminals. (By the way, soldiers generally don't decapitate enemies these days; doing so is a war crime.)
- humanrebar 10y ago
  Fair point. Though calling those actions war crimes strengthens the point that there is actually a drug war going on.
  - ptaipale 10y ago
    When drug lords decapitate people, I don't call it a war crime. Just crime. If soldiers wage war and then decapitate people (like Daesh does) then that's a war crime.
- natermer 10y ago
  Carrying out and enforcing immoral laws makes you as much of a criminal as anybody. The police state doesn't carry out showy public executions like the cartels do, but they have ruined many people's lives for no good reason and they have put plenty of otherwise innocent people in a grave. And guess what? The American people pay for both sides. They pay for the cartels and they pay for the police state. If the war on drugs never existed there wouldn't be any cartels in the first place. It's pure idiocy compounded with greed and profiteering on other people's misery. You can't have the one of the highest percentage of the population in prison and call yourself a free country. It's bold faced contradiction. The USA beats out Turkmenistan FFS.

pjc50 10y ago

It certainly is in Mexico.