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And then there is Liberland [1], a micronation proclaimed on land unwanted by both sides of a border dispute. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberland https:

And then there is Liberland [1], a micronation proclaimed on land unwanted by both sides of a border dispute. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberland

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djsumdog 10y ago
I got to see the border of this country a while back: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria Here's a photo: http://journeyofkhan.us/photo/transnistria-across-the-nistru-river/ http://journeyofkhan.us/photo/transnistria-across-the-nistru... http://journeyofkhan.us/photo/bridge-to-transnistria/ http://journeyofkhan.us/photo/bridge-to-transnistria/
- oblio 10y ago
  In case some folks here on HN don't already know it, I like to tell the story of this "country". Basically, it starts in the Middle Ages when there are 2 small states under Ottoman (Turkish) influence: Wallachia and Moldavia. As it happens for all small states, they get bullied around by their bigger neighbors, primarily the Ottomans, Russia and Austria. For our story only the Ottomans and Russia are important. So the Ottomans and Russia keep fighting over the region and they keep trading territories here, completely disregarding the history of the region or the ethnic groups present there. Imperialism at its finest. Wallachia is left more or less unscathed, but around 1812 Moldova is basically split in two, Russia taking the less developed Eastern part, called Bessarabia. After all this abuse, Wallachia and Moldova decide to unite and form modern Romania, around 1860. So Moldova basically disappears as a state. Fast forward to the end of WW1, Romania is getting bigger by incorporating all the lands around it that are majority Romanian, so Bessarabia becomes a part of Romania. Meanwhile, Russia becomes the USSR. It's not hard to guess that Romania and the USSR are not the best of friends. The Soviets never recognize the Romanian takeover/reclaiming of Bessarabia, but can't really attack Romania (yet). So they form a sort of "Moldovan Soviet Republic" outside of the historical territory of Moldova. Basically "Moldova in exile". I like to compare it to Mexico creating a "New Texas" state after being kicked out of Texas. Then, before WW2, as part of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Nazi-Soviet pact, the Soviets are allowed to attack Romania. They don't attack, instead they send an ultimatum and Romania is forced to give up Bessarabia, which is incorporated into the Moldovan Soviet Republic. So now the new Moldova has both Bessarabia and that extra part that was never Moldovan. That part is across the river Dniester, ergo "Trans" (across) "nistr" (Dniester is "Nistru" in Romanian) "-ia" (particle for "land of" in Romania). The USSR falls, Moldova becomes independent. Transnistria has Russia armies on its territory, so it declares its independence. Russia signs an agreement to pull back its army. 20 years after the agreement, the army is still there...

And then there is Liberland [1], a micronation proclaimed on land unwanted by both sides of a border dispute. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberland

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djsumdog 10y ago

I got to see the border of this country a while back: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria Here's a photo: http://journeyofkhan.us/photo/transnistria-across-the-nistru-river/ http://journeyofkhan.us/photo/transnistria-across-the-nistru... http://journeyofkhan.us/photo/bridge-to-transnistria/ http://journeyofkhan.us/photo/bridge-to-transnistria/

oblio 10y ago
In case some folks here on HN don't already know it, I like to tell the story of this "country". Basically, it starts in the Middle Ages when there are 2 small states under Ottoman (Turkish) influence: Wallachia and Moldavia. As it happens for all small states, they get bullied around by their bigger neighbors, primarily the Ottomans, Russia and Austria. For our story only the Ottomans and Russia are important. So the Ottomans and Russia keep fighting over the region and they keep trading territories here, completely disregarding the history of the region or the ethnic groups present there. Imperialism at its finest. Wallachia is left more or less unscathed, but around 1812 Moldova is basically split in two, Russia taking the less developed Eastern part, called Bessarabia. After all this abuse, Wallachia and Moldova decide to unite and form modern Romania, around 1860. So Moldova basically disappears as a state. Fast forward to the end of WW1, Romania is getting bigger by incorporating all the lands around it that are majority Romanian, so Bessarabia becomes a part of Romania. Meanwhile, Russia becomes the USSR. It's not hard to guess that Romania and the USSR are not the best of friends. The Soviets never recognize the Romanian takeover/reclaiming of Bessarabia, but can't really attack Romania (yet). So they form a sort of "Moldovan Soviet Republic" outside of the historical territory of Moldova. Basically "Moldova in exile". I like to compare it to Mexico creating a "New Texas" state after being kicked out of Texas. Then, before WW2, as part of the Ribbentrop-Molotov Nazi-Soviet pact, the Soviets are allowed to attack Romania. They don't attack, instead they send an ultimatum and Romania is forced to give up Bessarabia, which is incorporated into the Moldovan Soviet Republic. So now the new Moldova has both Bessarabia and that extra part that was never Moldovan. That part is across the river Dniester, ergo "Trans" (across) "nistr" (Dniester is "Nistru" in Romanian) "-ia" (particle for "land of" in Romania). The USSR falls, Moldova becomes independent. Transnistria has Russia armies on its territory, so it declares its independence. Russia signs an agreement to pull back its army. 20 years after the agreement, the army is still there...