Hmm, OK. Yeah, if you legally have to separate the two roles then I guess you'd do that. There still needs to be some sort of interface, though, that's all I am

Hmm, OK. Yeah, if you legally have to separate the two roles then I guess you'd do that. There still needs to be some sort of interface, though, that's all I am saying. For example, in places I've worked there was a "definition of done" where in order to have a new service be taken on by ops, it had to meet certain criteria so that the people running all these services had some common basis for diagnosing and running them. You don't want 100 different ways of calling a healthcheck on a service. You want service nodes to be able to handle a hard shutdown without data loss, maybe. Stuff like that