Intrresting, I always assumed that the whole mess was caused by management pressure to ship something ASAP, I just didn't figure it was outside management press

Intrresting, I always assumed that the whole mess was caused by management pressure to ship something ASAP, I just didn't figure it was outside management pressure :) Anyway .NET is too big for this to be detrimental and I'm only complaining because I like the work being done and the situation is turning off more traditional enterprise devs who have different expectations (eg. tooling in VS is still iffy but on 1.0 it wasn't even working when a colleague tried it). You guys still deserve a huge pat on the back - you used to be a pot smoking hippie if you used OSS in the .NET side of enterprise, now those people are contributing on GH, using git on VSO, using CLI tools that can be automated easily, etc.