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http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04h6wjx http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p04h6wjx "Identity politics on the left eventually triggers identity politics on the r

• dragonwriter 10y ago
  Identity politics on the right (and pretty much the same brand of racial, religious, and gender-preferential identity politics as today) have been a thing since the policies of enfranchisement on the left were largely ideological movements within the white, mostly at least nominally Christian, male middle-to-upper class segment, and not even really directed politically at the groups that would be enfranchise by them. In a very real sense, it is identity politics on the right that produced identity politics on the left, as the franchise spread such that the groups benefitting from the egalitarian impulses of the left actually became even paetially enfranchised and thus meaningful subjects of identity politics.
• Latty 10y ago
  A poor excuse. To label the two things the same implies they are equal, but they are not. Your statement implies the left should be holding back to stop the right from countering. Imagine if we had not abolished slavery simply because it could (and did) cause some people to become more racist. Arguing that the left should simply let some people have their rights denied, because the right will throw a hissy fit is unconscionable. The right labelling the left's attempts to give everyone equal rights as 'identity politics' is the political equivalent of 'stop hitting yourself' as they grab your hand and force it into your face. They are the ones denying people their rights based on identity, fighting that is not wrong, whatever doublethink you want to apply.