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The easiest ones are blacklisted for example: 4 repeating numbers and 1234. The 4 digit pin is not secure. It is like my bank telling me I can't use special ch

The easiest ones are blacklisted for example: 4 repeating numbers and 1234. The 4 digit pin is not secure. It is like my bank telling me I can't use special characters in my password for online access and max length is 20 chars but way way worse. My bank card has a 4 pin code that I need to enter when purchasing items, its a minor security. but it doesn't need to more complicated, if I lose my card I will have to call to block it. If my card gets duped then they probably know a way to see me enter my pin. (agreement with bank states that in many cases I will get my money refunded if stolen) For a thing like voicemail, if its accesable without taking or copying your sim, it is a bad security measure. The other required data is often easily obtained. (postcode, birthyear, etc)

Theodores 10y ago
I beg to differ about 4 repeating numbers. I have such a number, allocated by a bank. As I see it nobody is ever going to guess my pin because they would assume it was blacklisted. I also get to do a different dance entering in the pin in public places because I have to pretend I am typing anything other than just the same number, at places where security is not a problem I can breeze through entering my pin nice and quickly. I have not felt the urge to request a change of pin from 'one number' to four.
- Freestyler_3 10y ago
  It all depends on country and bank. They are more often blacklisted than not. Funny, how you have to dance around entering your pin. I can enter my 4 different digits so fast with almost the same intervals that it seems like I am entering 4 same digits. Unfortunately many pins are stolen by skimming, they sometimes place a whole cover over the ATM. Not taking function away but just copying all cards and filming all codes being entered or having an overlay on the keys.
- SamBam 10y ago
  > As I see it nobody is ever going to guess my pin because they would assume it was blacklisted. Why wouldn't they? It's just a quick ten numbers to check. 4444 is going to be more common than any one other completely-random selection, like 8064, for the same reason that people choose "password" as a password.

Theodores 10y ago

I beg to differ about 4 repeating numbers. I have such a number, allocated by a bank. As I see it nobody is ever going to guess my pin because they would assume it was blacklisted. I also get to do a different dance entering in the pin in public places because I have to pretend I am typing anything other than just the same number, at places where security is not a problem I can breeze through entering my pin nice and quickly. I have not felt the urge to request a change of pin from 'one number' to four.

Freestyler_3 10y ago
It all depends on country and bank. They are more often blacklisted than not. Funny, how you have to dance around entering your pin. I can enter my 4 different digits so fast with almost the same intervals that it seems like I am entering 4 same digits. Unfortunately many pins are stolen by skimming, they sometimes place a whole cover over the ATM. Not taking function away but just copying all cards and filming all codes being entered or having an overlay on the keys.
SamBam 10y ago
> As I see it nobody is ever going to guess my pin because they would assume it was blacklisted. Why wouldn't they? It's just a quick ten numbers to check. 4444 is going to be more common than any one other completely-random selection, like 8064, for the same reason that people choose "password" as a password.