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I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market... The Chromebook Pixel 2 is absol

by Remmib 10y ago

I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market... The Chromebook Pixel 2 is absolutely gorgeous, but it still comes with a prohibitively small SSD. They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense. I just can't figure out why they aren't doing this.

Ralfp 10y ago
Also give me photoshop because I work with PSD's plenty and I'm tempted.
- EasyTiger_ 10y ago
  Hell give me the whole Adobe CC suite
johnward 10y ago
No one thinks there is much value in the developer market?
iainmerrick 10y ago
They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense. That would be great, but I don't think they have the expertise in-house for that right now -- they'd have to ramp up and that's a slow process.
tdkl 10y ago
Their revenue comes from ads and cloud. They have 0 incentive doing anything for desktop OS.
digi_owl 10y ago
They may be heading that way with Android given recent changes.
adamlett 10y ago
"I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market" There could be many reasons. Off the top of my head: * Google is not a devices company (disregarding recent forays into the the high end smartphone market), but a services company. It's not in their DNA to this, and it doesn't fit their (current) business model. The don't have the required hardware competences, nor the required sales or distribution organisations. * Even if Google had the required competences to do this, it's highly doubtful that it's a worthwhile pursuit. The "pro" market is not big, its probably not growing, and the competition is fierce. To the extend that Apple neglects this market, its probably because the ROI is too low. To make hardware that seriously challenges Apple (and other PC manufacturers) requires large investments. * It doesn't support Google's other businesses. Google is already present on all the existing platforms. They are not going to sell more ads doing this.
- SamBam 10y ago
  > The "pro" market is not big, its probably not growing Not sure I agree with that, when we're teaching everybody and their grandparents how to program, in order to compete in the "new economy." Doubly-so for developing countries. I would hope that the proportion of developers in the world should be increasing.
  - sosborn 10y ago
    Developers are but a small portion of "pro." Also, the stuff being taught to everybody and their grandparents would do fine on 10-year-old netbooks.
    - mixmastamyk 10y ago
      Indeed, I learned CS on a 486 and the code I wrote ran mind-bogglingly fast on a Pentium.
  - adamlett 10y ago
    We may be talking about different things. I was talking specifically about laptops that are directly comparable with Apple's pro line (i.e. expensive). I seems doubtful that the market for expensive laptops will find much growth in the developing world. Even if it should prove true that the proportion of high end users is expanding relative to the entire market, it will still just be a bigger slice of a smaller pie. The PC market has been declining for quite some time. That doesn't mean that there will not still be lucrative niches within that market, but does Google really strike you as a company that would or should go for a niche in a contracting market?
JulianMorrison 10y ago
A linux distro that isn't 100% locked down and limited to infrastructure like Android and ChromeOS is a fuss and a nuisance to maintain, it takes expensive specialists, it takes money, and it invites security issues. And "developers" is a teeny tiny market.
guelo 10y ago
Google wants to move you to the cloud. They can't ensure the data collection they need if it's regular Linux.

by Remmib 10y ago

Ralfp 10y ago

Also give me photoshop because I work with PSD's plenty and I'm tempted.

EasyTiger_ 10y ago
Hell give me the whole Adobe CC suite

johnward 10y ago

No one thinks there is much value in the developer market?

iainmerrick 10y ago

They need to develop their own super-robust and sexy Linux distro and drop the ChromeOS nonsense. That would be great, but I don't think they have the expertise in-house for that right now -- they'd have to ramp up and that's a slow process.

tdkl 10y ago

Their revenue comes from ads and cloud. They have 0 incentive doing anything for desktop OS.

digi_owl 10y ago

They may be heading that way with Android given recent changes.

adamlett 10y ago

"I do not know why Google doesn't just come in and absolutely dominate Apple in the 'laptop geared towards developers'-market" There could be many reasons. Off the top of my head: * Google is not a devices company (disregarding recent forays into the the high end smartphone market), but a services company. It's not in their DNA to this, and it doesn't fit their (current) business model. The don't have the required hardware competences, nor the required sales or distribution organisations. * Even if Google had the required competences to do this, it's highly doubtful that it's a worthwhile pursuit. The "pro" market is not big, its probably not growing, and the competition is fierce. To the extend that Apple neglects this market, its probably because the ROI is too low. To make hardware that seriously challenges Apple (and other PC manufacturers) requires large investments. * It doesn't support Google's other businesses. Google is already present on all the existing platforms. They are not going to sell more ads doing this.

SamBam 10y ago
> The "pro" market is not big, its probably not growing Not sure I agree with that, when we're teaching everybody and their grandparents how to program, in order to compete in the "new economy." Doubly-so for developing countries. I would hope that the proportion of developers in the world should be increasing.
- sosborn 10y ago
  Developers are but a small portion of "pro." Also, the stuff being taught to everybody and their grandparents would do fine on 10-year-old netbooks.
  - mixmastamyk 10y ago
    Indeed, I learned CS on a 486 and the code I wrote ran mind-bogglingly fast on a Pentium.
- adamlett 10y ago
  We may be talking about different things. I was talking specifically about laptops that are directly comparable with Apple's pro line (i.e. expensive). I seems doubtful that the market for expensive laptops will find much growth in the developing world. Even if it should prove true that the proportion of high end users is expanding relative to the entire market, it will still just be a bigger slice of a smaller pie. The PC market has been declining for quite some time. That doesn't mean that there will not still be lucrative niches within that market, but does Google really strike you as a company that would or should go for a niche in a contracting market?

JulianMorrison 10y ago

A linux distro that isn't 100% locked down and limited to infrastructure like Android and ChromeOS is a fuss and a nuisance to maintain, it takes expensive specialists, it takes money, and it invites security issues. And "developers" is a teeny tiny market.

guelo 10y ago

Google wants to move you to the cloud. They can't ensure the data collection they need if it's regular Linux.