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Come join Linux my friends. My fedora hat wearing greybeards wait for you. Only operating system left that gives semblance of privacy and security. And to thos
by devoply 10y ago
Come join Linux my friends. My fedora hat wearing greybeards wait for you. Only operating system left that gives semblance of privacy and security.
And to those who think I am derailing... http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-wants-all-linux-developers-to-move-to-windows-10-510551.shtml http://news.softpedia.com/news/microsoft-wants-all-linux-dev...
- renownedmedia 10y agoFedora is too young for Greybeards.
- leoc 10y agoAnd there's no active VAX port of Fedora anyway.
- sdegutis 10y agoIn all seriousness, why is Fedora the mosts worthy Linux out of them all, in terms of privacy and security? I thought those two were kind of an inherent staple of all Linux distros? In the past I've used Debian Stable with AwesomeWM (the inspiration for Mjolnir) and it felt pretty secure?
- devoply 10y agoI meant the hat not the distro. I use Ubuntu, I am happy with it. Before that used Debian and Slackware. Was happy with those too. Used it for 15 years. Can't complain. I don't feel my computing has been hurt by using Linux. And over time it seems as it's the only sane choice.
- 3131s 10y agoI misread your post too, but now it's clear on a reread that you meant the hat! I am also a proud and happy Linux user going on about 10 years now, and what's great is that I know all the knowledge I've acquired will still be relevant many decades into the future -- not sure the same can be said of Windows or MacOS.
- type0 10y agoFedora 25 is best ever, you should try it. Now that then replaced X with Wayland it should become be ever more secure.
- na85 10y agoDoes Fedora still recommend wipe->reinstall from scratch as the default upgrade path?
- embik 10y agoI'm not sure what they recommend, but the in-place upgrade path for Fedora works really really well.
- mentat2737 10y agoNope, Gnome Software can upgrade systems now.
- sjellis 10y agoI've only been following Fedora development from a distance, and haven't had time to look at Fedora 25 yet. From memory, there's a bunch of things: * Fedora and Ubuntu are more aggressive about compiling security features into the packaged binaries, whilst Debian considers package build flags to be the decision of individual maintainers, so coverage is more piece-meal. * Fedora ships SELinux enabled. I believe that current versions of Android is the only popular non-Red Hat Linux-based system that does that. The common compliant about RH's SELinux implementation is that it is so restrictive about system integrity that it blocks actual system administrators from doing routine tasks unless they remember to change the appropriate SELinux policy settings first. * Fedora 25 now uses a Wayland implementation for managing graphics by default, rather than X, so that the security issues of X don't apply. * Fedora 24+ includes Flatpak, so that there is a system for sandboxed applications. Fedora 25 provides the UI integration for non-technical users to run Flatpak packages (once developers build them). * The RPM/DNF package management system is more stringent about checking downloaded packages than APT.
- Sylos 10y agoIt did have a comparatively low number of security vulnerabilities in 2015. I also often see it brought up that Fedora uses SELinux by default.
- DiabloD3 10y agoI think you meant Debian.
- Aloha 10y agoAll unix graybeards wear fedoras, you're issued one once your beard is four inches or longer, everyone knows that. ;-)
- c3534l 10y agoIf you're going to recommend a Linux for security, I would have assumed it'd be Tails. For maximum greybeard, I'd go with Gentoo. But this is hacker news, I don't think your average user here is just hearing about Linux from this thread.
- y_u_no_rust 10y agoCall me when linus in all of his trumpiness accepts rust until then i'm #teamwindows
- danieldk 10y agoOnly operating system left that gives semblance of privacy and security. You mean the operating system where with the default display server any application can read keystrokes, read mouse events, and make screen grabs of any other application? The operating system where no apps are sandboxed by default? The operating system where once you find a local root exploit, which are not rare, you can embed a root kit deep in the operating system? Sorry for the harsh comment, but Linux is hardly the pinnacle of security. (Perhaps with rare exceptions like Qubes or RHEL with SELinux on servers.)
- bitmapbrother 10y agoNo, he means the OS that runs the Internet, powers the majority of enterprise systems and inside nearly all of the of embedded and IOT devices.