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Yea, my question was more rhetorical. For the record, I think it is a problem that someone can consistently drop hateful political rhetoric (I looked through h

Yea, my question was more rhetorical. For the record, I think it is a problem that someone can consistently drop hateful political rhetoric (I looked through hga's history) essentially without repercussions. It looks like he has some perfectly fine technical contributions, but that shouldn't be an excuse to regularly derail threads with hateful commentary. Any new account which displayed hga's history of political commentary would be summarily banned. I'm skeptical that HN should allow such commentary to continue just because it comes from the same account that has technically good content.

grzm 10y ago
I was purely providing a speculative explanation, not a justification. Nor do I think some calculus balancing good posts versus bad posts is being done by the mods. If you read me as implying either, that wasn't in any way my intent nor my position.
- morgante 10y ago
  Sorry, I didn't think you were arguing that at all. I'm mostly just venting about the level of hate which so many humans are seemingly capable of (and how few resources the rest of us have to combat it).
  - hga 10y ago
    and how few resources the rest of us have to combat it Review my recent threads in the last 24+ and see exactly how many people publicly support vs. oppose me. There seem to be a sufficiency of the latter, which makes sense ... ah, let me introduce another concept: identity > culture > politics. The Left "owns" most if not all of the existing identity groups, and the gravamen about this election seems to be that whites are finally starting to decide that they too must become an identity group, that they can't afford to not play this game when everyone else is, and to our disadvantage. You may find this deplorable, as I do in many ways, but I hope you don't contend that whites are uniquely not allowed to play the same game every other group is playing. The Left owns the culture, and therefore the politics that are downstream of it, e.g. they've been allowed to define the Overton Window and otherwise the rules of the game. A large fraction of Trump's appeal is that he refuses to play most of the game by the Left's rules, and one of the things that really launched him was his very direct attacks on political correctness, the single most powerful tool in the American Left's armory aside from lawfare and outright violence, the latter of which which we've learned was explicitly a tool in Hillary's campaign and that we can now see being played out in the streets of America. And we can be sure lawfare will be employed in due course.... And, seriously, that I legitimately trigger you does not mean that I hate you, or even dislike you (too many both of Jewish friends and enemies over the years to do that to the group as a whole), although I can certainly see why you'd come to that conclusion. On the other hand, perhaps look into yourself. Do you hold those in flyover country in disdain? Do you disprove of "Journalist Marisa Fox-Bevilacqua, writing for Israel’s left-wing Ha’aretz daily, call[ing] Ivanka Trump a 'leggy glamazon, a ‘shiksa goddess’ trophy wife for the shy son of a disgraced macher'" (that's from http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/11/27/ivanka-trump-haaretz-marisa-fox-bevilacqua-shiksa-goddess/ http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/11/27/ivanka-trump-h... since I don't have a subscription to Ha’aretz, nor would I ever dream of paying for one to that rag). The ADL's incorrect smearing of Steve Bannon and Breitbart.com? Even if you don't participate, this is most certainly a two-way street....
- hga 10y ago
  Nor do I think some calculus balancing good posts versus bad posts is being done by the mods. It is, though, based on ... dang's comments I think, in a previous incident. They to date don't appear to believe that I "consistently drop hateful political rhetoric" nor to I believe I do, and I certainly try to avoid "regularly derail[ing] threads". Take this discussion, for example, what I've had to say is pretty much by definition on topic in a topic about "White Nationalism"
  - dang 10y ago
    Please don't confuse our not seeing all the comments with endorsements of what we don't see.

grzm 10y ago

I was purely providing a speculative explanation, not a justification. Nor do I think some calculus balancing good posts versus bad posts is being done by the mods. If you read me as implying either, that wasn't in any way my intent nor my position.

morgante 10y ago
Sorry, I didn't think you were arguing that at all. I'm mostly just venting about the level of hate which so many humans are seemingly capable of (and how few resources the rest of us have to combat it).
- hga 10y ago
  and how few resources the rest of us have to combat it Review my recent threads in the last 24+ and see exactly how many people publicly support vs. oppose me. There seem to be a sufficiency of the latter, which makes sense ... ah, let me introduce another concept: identity > culture > politics. The Left "owns" most if not all of the existing identity groups, and the gravamen about this election seems to be that whites are finally starting to decide that they too must become an identity group, that they can't afford to not play this game when everyone else is, and to our disadvantage. You may find this deplorable, as I do in many ways, but I hope you don't contend that whites are uniquely not allowed to play the same game every other group is playing. The Left owns the culture, and therefore the politics that are downstream of it, e.g. they've been allowed to define the Overton Window and otherwise the rules of the game. A large fraction of Trump's appeal is that he refuses to play most of the game by the Left's rules, and one of the things that really launched him was his very direct attacks on political correctness, the single most powerful tool in the American Left's armory aside from lawfare and outright violence, the latter of which which we've learned was explicitly a tool in Hillary's campaign and that we can now see being played out in the streets of America. And we can be sure lawfare will be employed in due course.... And, seriously, that I legitimately trigger you does not mean that I hate you, or even dislike you (too many both of Jewish friends and enemies over the years to do that to the group as a whole), although I can certainly see why you'd come to that conclusion. On the other hand, perhaps look into yourself. Do you hold those in flyover country in disdain? Do you disprove of "Journalist Marisa Fox-Bevilacqua, writing for Israel’s left-wing Ha’aretz daily, call[ing] Ivanka Trump a 'leggy glamazon, a ‘shiksa goddess’ trophy wife for the shy son of a disgraced macher'" (that's from http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/11/27/ivanka-trump-haaretz-marisa-fox-bevilacqua-shiksa-goddess/ http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2016/11/27/ivanka-trump-h... since I don't have a subscription to Ha’aretz, nor would I ever dream of paying for one to that rag). The ADL's incorrect smearing of Steve Bannon and Breitbart.com? Even if you don't participate, this is most certainly a two-way street....
hga 10y ago
Nor do I think some calculus balancing good posts versus bad posts is being done by the mods. It is, though, based on ... dang's comments I think, in a previous incident. They to date don't appear to believe that I "consistently drop hateful political rhetoric" nor to I believe I do, and I certainly try to avoid "regularly derail[ing] threads". Take this discussion, for example, what I've had to say is pretty much by definition on topic in a topic about "White Nationalism"
- dang 10y ago
  Please don't confuse our not seeing all the comments with endorsements of what we don't see.