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I think he was working on the start page for Mozilla 1.0 in 2002. The credits page [0] for the 1.5 start page lists him among the contributors to 1.0's. I coul

by ekiru 10y ago

I think he was working on the start page for Mozilla 1.0 in 2002. The credits page [0] for the 1.5 start page lists him among the contributors to 1.0's. I couldn't find any remarks from him in 2002 about Mozilla's chances, but in 2001 he said "I think not. In a world of free browsers, the flavour of the month can change like that." [1] in response to a mailing list message saying that Mozilla would not be viable competition on Windows due to bugs, which is somewhat less optimistic than the "pretty good" odds in hindsight, but it's much more so than "very long odds against us retaking any browser market share". [0]: http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.5/credits.html http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.5/credits.html [1]: http://marc.info/?l=mozilla-ui&m=100168107415632&q=raw http://marc.info/?l=mozilla-ui&m=100168107415632&q=raw

davidgerard 10y ago
I was working on the documentation for 1.0 http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/ http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/ Specifically I co-wrote the 1.0 FAQ http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/faq/ http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/faq/ I also wrote (and Gerv hacked right down) the page explaining Open Source/Free Software (while trying to keep both camps happy) http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/opensource.html http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/opensource.html I'd basically been a volunteer tester and bug reporter through 2000 and 2001. Mozilla wasn't a good browser then, it was rubbish and it crashed even more than IE5. But it was important to keep testing it and crashing it and sending in the talkback crash dumps and so on.
- BrendanEich 10y ago
  Thanks, sorry I didn't remember you or check about:credits. Now the part you didn't answer: did you lay good odds at the time? Not putting you down at all if you did not. If you had, my hat would be off to you -- and you should try predicting other stuff, and betting large if you are accurate! Again, the notion of Mozilla succeeding in any restart-the-browser gambit was considered long odds by all pundits and almost everyone involved in Mozilla at the time. Phoenix (née mozilla/browser) was a pirate ship in 2002.
  - davidgerard 10y ago
    I must say I didn't quite :-) I figured it was an uphill battle, but I did figure we were in with a chance. That even with a big fat Netscaped Mozilla, it was not hopeless.

by ekiru 10y ago

davidgerard 10y ago

I was working on the documentation for 1.0 http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/ http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/ Specifically I co-wrote the 1.0 FAQ http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/faq/ http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/faq/ I also wrote (and Gerv hacked right down) the page explaining Open Source/Free Software (while trying to keep both camps happy) http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/opensource.html http://www-archive.mozilla.org/start/1.0/opensource.html I'd basically been a volunteer tester and bug reporter through 2000 and 2001. Mozilla wasn't a good browser then, it was rubbish and it crashed even more than IE5. But it was important to keep testing it and crashing it and sending in the talkback crash dumps and so on.

BrendanEich 10y ago
Thanks, sorry I didn't remember you or check about:credits. Now the part you didn't answer: did you lay good odds at the time? Not putting you down at all if you did not. If you had, my hat would be off to you -- and you should try predicting other stuff, and betting large if you are accurate! Again, the notion of Mozilla succeeding in any restart-the-browser gambit was considered long odds by all pundits and almost everyone involved in Mozilla at the time. Phoenix (née mozilla/browser) was a pirate ship in 2002.
- davidgerard 10y ago
  I must say I didn't quite :-) I figured it was an uphill battle, but I did figure we were in with a chance. That even with a big fat Netscaped Mozilla, it was not hopeless.