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Your complaints about the web are valid but totally out of scope for the HTTP spec.
by schmichael 10y ago
Your complaints about the web are valid but totally out of scope for the HTTP spec.
- bsder 10y agoAsking why everybody is wasting time on something THAT WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON END USERS is quite in scope, thanks. This benefits a very small number of companies who manage to serve very small, highly optimized payloads and nobody else. And everybody else pays the cost in terms of complexity, security holes, and implementation bugs.
- schmichael 10y agoMore efficient protocols mean lower costs for those companies. Lower costs potentially means fewer ads to make the same amount of money. Not every technical advance needs to have a direct impact on end users to have a positive indirect effect.
- byuu 10y ago> This benefits a very small number of companies ... And everybody else pays the cost in terms of complexity, security holes, and implementation bugs. Yes, exactly!! SPDY, QUIC, et al are designed by Google for the Googles and Facebooks of the world. It is not prioritizing what most sites need most. Hell, most sites don't need this period. Optimizing even the most generous 1.4% that Cloudflare claims isn't going to have any meaning to sites ranked below 100,000 in Alexa (eg 99% of them.) They're not going to run out of bandwidth, and their traffic means they're only using ~3% of a $5/mo VPS. You want software and website monocultures? This is how you get it. Unbelievable complexity creep. All the fun we've had with OpenSSL vulnerabilities? Get ready for them in the new QUIC-HTTP/2 servers. TLS alone already basically makes it impossible to write your own web server anymore, but at least that's a necessary evil due to ISP and state actor spying abuses. If you're okay with a world where everyone has the choice between nginx or Apache, I guess that's fine. I'm not, though.