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Other than the anachronistic name (thought "cyber" wend out in the 90's), I'm extremely impressed to see such an awesome tool come out of the public sector. Kud

by mgalka 10y ago

Other than the anachronistic name (thought "cyber" wend out in the 90's), I'm extremely impressed to see such an awesome tool come out of the public sector. Kudos to GCHQ!

dfc 10y ago
> "cyber" wend out in the 90's I take it you have no exposure to the public sector? Referring to "Cyber" as "IT/Info/Computer/Network Security" will immediately identify you as an outsider in man public sector positions.
- schoen 10y ago
  And vice versa outside of government!
omouse 10y ago
It would be better if we knew they weren't using it for evil.
raesene9 10y ago
Nah, "Cyber Security" is becoming the defacto term for referring to what I would have called IT Security in the past (some interesting reading on the topic here http://cyber.uk/cyber/ http://cyber.uk/cyber/)
- mgalka 10y ago
  The other day someone was telling me they used to run a website called CyberHomes. All I could think of was how weird that would sound today.
samwilliams 10y ago
> thought "cyber" wend out in the 90's A year ago someone in my research group claimed that they were 'getting into cyber'. I looked around the room and almost every other member of the group looked confused and a little concerned. Apparently 'cyber' has become a byword for 'cyber security'. I hope that this does not last.
- hanoz 10y ago
  > Apparently 'cyber' has become a byword for 'cyber security'. I hope that this does not last. I wouldn't get your hopes up, from the people who brought you forensic (i.e. legal) as a byword for science.
- Spooky23 10y ago
  The security group at work now fancies themselves as "Cyber Command". We immediately began mocking them with a buzz lightyear graphic.
  - Godel_unicode 10y ago
    They might be interested in this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cyber_Command https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cyber_Command
    - stcredzero 10y ago
      Back in the late 90's on AOL, "cyber" was short for "cybersex."
cybercyber 10y ago
'Cyber' usage has recently become de rigueur by people in positions of authority. see http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/09/trumps-incoherent-ideas-about-the-cyber/501839/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/09/trumps...
- Allower 10y ago
  sure, its a great way to identify the people who have NO competency for their stated authority
tener 10y ago
According to Google Trends, "cyber" overall slowly going out of use, but "cyber security" has a reverse trend. At the same time, Cyber Monday is winning it all. https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20security,cyber,cyber%20monday https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20sec... https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20security https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20sec... EDIT: I've managed to get rid of this pesky Cyber Monday out of the graph! https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20-monday,cyber%20security https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20-mo...
- zerognowl 10y ago
  The word is usually used in the context of war. See: https://cyberbelli.com/2012/05/26/cyberspace-is-a-domain-of-war/ https://cyberbelli.com/2012/05/26/cyberspace-is-a-domain-of-... http://ndupress.ndu.edu/Media/News/News-Article-View/Article/577536/jfq-74-cyber-power-in-21st-century-joint-warfare/ http://ndupress.ndu.edu/Media/News/News-Article-View/Article... http://www.academia.edu/1753317/A_Theory_of_War_in_the_Cyber_Domain_An_Historical_Perspective http://www.academia.edu/1753317/A_Theory_of_War_in_the_Cyber...
- CopOnTheRun 10y ago
  Google trends is not good for this kind of analysis. Google trends is based on the number of searches for a particular term relative to all other searches. So you see the same trend when you look at other tech topics like Linux, programming, SSH, computer science, etc. It's not that these things are necessarily becoming less popular, just that tech oriented people were over represented on the early internet, and thus Google search. As more non tech people started googling stuff, tech topics fell in their relative importance.
  - Godel_unicode 10y ago
    Re-read the comment you replied to, cyber security is trending in the opposite direction of Cyber (or SSH). That would seem to invalidate your thesis; Cyber security is gaining popularity relative to other topics. Edit: there's also an interesting spike in Google trends for "cyber" every November. National Cyber Security Awareness Month is in October.
zitterbewegung 10y ago
How to update it for this decade: Replace Cyber with Data !
- staticautomatic 10y ago
  Data Sex?
  - cdevs 10y ago
    This is the best part of this site, I completely forgot what this article was about and I'm 60 comments deep about the history and trends of the word "cyber". There needs to be a site dedicated to these entertaining comment threads / bravo

by mgalka 10y ago

Other than the anachronistic name (thought "cyber" wend out in the 90's), I'm extremely impressed to see such an awesome tool come out of the public sector. Kudos to GCHQ!

dfc 10y ago

> "cyber" wend out in the 90's I take it you have no exposure to the public sector? Referring to "Cyber" as "IT/Info/Computer/Network Security" will immediately identify you as an outsider in man public sector positions.

schoen 10y ago
And vice versa outside of government!

omouse 10y ago

It would be better if we knew they weren't using it for evil.

raesene9 10y ago

Nah, "Cyber Security" is becoming the defacto term for referring to what I would have called IT Security in the past (some interesting reading on the topic here http://cyber.uk/cyber/ http://cyber.uk/cyber/)

mgalka 10y ago
The other day someone was telling me they used to run a website called CyberHomes. All I could think of was how weird that would sound today.

samwilliams 10y ago

> thought "cyber" wend out in the 90's A year ago someone in my research group claimed that they were 'getting into cyber'. I looked around the room and almost every other member of the group looked confused and a little concerned. Apparently 'cyber' has become a byword for 'cyber security'. I hope that this does not last.

hanoz 10y ago
> Apparently 'cyber' has become a byword for 'cyber security'. I hope that this does not last. I wouldn't get your hopes up, from the people who brought you forensic (i.e. legal) as a byword for science.
Spooky23 10y ago
The security group at work now fancies themselves as "Cyber Command". We immediately began mocking them with a buzz lightyear graphic.
- Godel_unicode 10y ago
  They might be interested in this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cyber_Command https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Cyber_Command
  - stcredzero 10y ago
    Back in the late 90's on AOL, "cyber" was short for "cybersex."

cybercyber 10y ago

'Cyber' usage has recently become de rigueur by people in positions of authority. see http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/09/trumps-incoherent-ideas-about-the-cyber/501839/ http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2016/09/trumps...

Allower 10y ago
sure, its a great way to identify the people who have NO competency for their stated authority

tener 10y ago

According to Google Trends, "cyber" overall slowly going out of use, but "cyber security" has a reverse trend. At the same time, Cyber Monday is winning it all. https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20security,cyber,cyber%20monday https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20sec... https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20security https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20sec... EDIT: I've managed to get rid of this pesky Cyber Monday out of the graph! https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20-monday,cyber%20security https://www.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&q=cyber%20-mo...

zerognowl 10y ago
The word is usually used in the context of war. See: https://cyberbelli.com/2012/05/26/cyberspace-is-a-domain-of-war/ https://cyberbelli.com/2012/05/26/cyberspace-is-a-domain-of-... http://ndupress.ndu.edu/Media/News/News-Article-View/Article/577536/jfq-74-cyber-power-in-21st-century-joint-warfare/ http://ndupress.ndu.edu/Media/News/News-Article-View/Article... http://www.academia.edu/1753317/A_Theory_of_War_in_the_Cyber_Domain_An_Historical_Perspective http://www.academia.edu/1753317/A_Theory_of_War_in_the_Cyber...
CopOnTheRun 10y ago
Google trends is not good for this kind of analysis. Google trends is based on the number of searches for a particular term relative to all other searches. So you see the same trend when you look at other tech topics like Linux, programming, SSH, computer science, etc. It's not that these things are necessarily becoming less popular, just that tech oriented people were over represented on the early internet, and thus Google search. As more non tech people started googling stuff, tech topics fell in their relative importance.
- Godel_unicode 10y ago
  Re-read the comment you replied to, cyber security is trending in the opposite direction of Cyber (or SSH). That would seem to invalidate your thesis; Cyber security is gaining popularity relative to other topics. Edit: there's also an interesting spike in Google trends for "cyber" every November. National Cyber Security Awareness Month is in October.

zitterbewegung 10y ago

How to update it for this decade: Replace Cyber with Data !

staticautomatic 10y ago
Data Sex?
- cdevs 10y ago
  This is the best part of this site, I completely forgot what this article was about and I'm 60 comments deep about the history and trends of the word "cyber". There needs to be a site dedicated to these entertaining comment threads / bravo