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To me, my linux install is my manual F-150 and my windows install is my auto/hybrid Honda Civic. They serve different purposes. They meet different goals. They

by criley2 10y ago

To me, my linux install is my manual F-150 and my windows install is my auto/hybrid Honda Civic. They serve different purposes. They meet different goals. They have different pros and cons, but ultimately, I need both to meet my needs.

zeveb 10y ago
> To me, my linux install is my manual F-150 and my windows install is my auto/hybrid Honda Civic. To me, the Windows machine I have to use is a Trabant with a missing front passenger seat and a nasty tendency to catch fire when it's cold out. Seriously, it's horribly painful to use.
- bryanrasmussen 10y ago
  I have an Ubuntu desktop, Macbook Pro, and I tried a new Windows machine a couple days ago ( as well as having used one for many years) I can't say I find any deal-breaking differences between them, or even points of significant more pain on any of them. For me they each have their benefits. Are you sure it isn't painful because of being on old hardware or something? (I've used Redhat - that was sometimes painful for me)
  - zeveb 10y ago
    The hardware's less than a year old, but it's low-spec. Still, using it is so miserable that it makes me physically enraged. The login screen loses keystrokes; the browser constantly prompts for my smartcard; the system can't do partial OS updates; it tries to sell me things on the login screen and in the start menu. Everything is painful, and nothing is pleasant, and when I use it life is dark and miserable and existence is cursed. Seriously, that's not hyperbole: using Windows negatively impacts my life. Running Debian with stumpwm, OTOH, is so comfortable it's like slipping on a glove.
- criley2 10y ago
  >To me, the Windows machine I have to use is a Trabant with a missing front passenger seat and a nasty tendency to catch fire when it's cold out. >Seriously, it's horribly painful to use. Haha, I have the exact same experience with linux. Windows is a self-driving Tesla that just works while Linux is some 1960's beater limping into the modern world, requiring the 1500pg Shop Manual in the glove compartment on a daily basis because, you just know that old carbureted air/fuel gets knocked off and requires hand adjustment, and the throttle gets sticky if push the pedal too hard, and it just doesn't like keeping oil in the engine when the rubber seals are too cold. I guess it just comes down to what you expect. To me, Windows is "push install button, come back to internet connected desktop" while Linux is "put aside an afternoon for terminal usage and extensive googling and be prepared to make sacrifices/compromises-- temper your expectations"

by criley2 10y ago

zeveb 10y ago

> To me, my linux install is my manual F-150 and my windows install is my auto/hybrid Honda Civic. To me, the Windows machine I have to use is a Trabant with a missing front passenger seat and a nasty tendency to catch fire when it's cold out. Seriously, it's horribly painful to use.

bryanrasmussen 10y ago
I have an Ubuntu desktop, Macbook Pro, and I tried a new Windows machine a couple days ago ( as well as having used one for many years) I can't say I find any deal-breaking differences between them, or even points of significant more pain on any of them. For me they each have their benefits. Are you sure it isn't painful because of being on old hardware or something? (I've used Redhat - that was sometimes painful for me)
- zeveb 10y ago
  The hardware's less than a year old, but it's low-spec. Still, using it is so miserable that it makes me physically enraged. The login screen loses keystrokes; the browser constantly prompts for my smartcard; the system can't do partial OS updates; it tries to sell me things on the login screen and in the start menu. Everything is painful, and nothing is pleasant, and when I use it life is dark and miserable and existence is cursed. Seriously, that's not hyperbole: using Windows negatively impacts my life. Running Debian with stumpwm, OTOH, is so comfortable it's like slipping on a glove.
criley2 10y ago
>To me, the Windows machine I have to use is a Trabant with a missing front passenger seat and a nasty tendency to catch fire when it's cold out. >Seriously, it's horribly painful to use. Haha, I have the exact same experience with linux. Windows is a self-driving Tesla that just works while Linux is some 1960's beater limping into the modern world, requiring the 1500pg Shop Manual in the glove compartment on a daily basis because, you just know that old carbureted air/fuel gets knocked off and requires hand adjustment, and the throttle gets sticky if push the pedal too hard, and it just doesn't like keeping oil in the engine when the rubber seals are too cold. I guess it just comes down to what you expect. To me, Windows is "push install button, come back to internet connected desktop" while Linux is "put aside an afternoon for terminal usage and extensive googling and be prepared to make sacrifices/compromises-- temper your expectations"