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You could sit your girlfriend down and do the "advanced configuration" on Windows 10, then she'll understand why Linux is better.

by g00gler 10y ago

criley2 10y ago
You could sit your girlfriend down with nothing but terminal, the man pages for a printer or video card driver, and the root user password, and she'll understand why Windows is better.
- abpavel 10y ago
  mmc, regedit, powershell, sure this could cascade much further, but I think maybe op had the default privacy options in mind, which enable windows to use the camera and microphone feeds as the os sees fit.
  - g00gler 10y ago
    Yes, this exactly. If anyone cared to check out the advanced configuration it is pretty much exclusively turning off security vulnerabilities. One of them is "Automatically trust WiFi connections my contacts trust", a bunch of others are sending data to Microsoft. It's been a few months since I turned on a new Windows 10 PC but I was completely turned off by the advanced configuration. The #3 story on HN right now is "Windows 10 in-place upgrades are a severe security risk" I thought this was a good read the other day https://www.brokenbrowser.com/abusing-of-protocols/ https://www.brokenbrowser.com/abusing-of-protocols/ It just seems terrible security wise, the OS itself is spyware. That is to say, I was excited to be trying out a sexy new Asus Ultrabook with Ubuntu mixed in but didn't care to try after setting it up.
WayneBro 10y ago
That would be missing the point entirely due to the fact that most users care more about ease of use and apps than "advanced configuration". Not sure why we have to "sit anybody down" either...that sounds a bit forceful and unnecessary. Last time I checked, "better" is completely subjective. But for the record, most people think Windows is better since that's what they've voted for with their dollars. Windows won the desktop war. It's got more users, more apps, more consistency, more stability, more commercial support...more everything. People still fighting for desktop Linux to become popular with regular users are like Hiroo Onoda, the japanese soldier who kept fighting WW2 for 30 years. Good luck with that!
- alkonaut 10y ago
  The biggest issue imho is that there just isn't a nice consistent desktop story for linux. Making an application with a nice consistent setup and UI experience across all desktop environments and all distributions without having to distribute to several different package repositories or test on these distributions or window managers? Until that works there is no one Linux desktop - only several different Linux desktops, each with too little traction.

You could sit your girlfriend down and do the "advanced configuration" on Windows 10, then she'll understand why Linux is better.

by g00gler 10y ago

You could sit your girlfriend down and do the "advanced configuration" on Windows 10, then she'll understand why Linux is better.

criley2 10y ago

You could sit your girlfriend down with nothing but terminal, the man pages for a printer or video card driver, and the root user password, and she'll understand why Windows is better.

abpavel 10y ago
mmc, regedit, powershell, sure this could cascade much further, but I think maybe op had the default privacy options in mind, which enable windows to use the camera and microphone feeds as the os sees fit.
- g00gler 10y ago
  Yes, this exactly. If anyone cared to check out the advanced configuration it is pretty much exclusively turning off security vulnerabilities. One of them is "Automatically trust WiFi connections my contacts trust", a bunch of others are sending data to Microsoft. It's been a few months since I turned on a new Windows 10 PC but I was completely turned off by the advanced configuration. The #3 story on HN right now is "Windows 10 in-place upgrades are a severe security risk" I thought this was a good read the other day https://www.brokenbrowser.com/abusing-of-protocols/ https://www.brokenbrowser.com/abusing-of-protocols/ It just seems terrible security wise, the OS itself is spyware. That is to say, I was excited to be trying out a sexy new Asus Ultrabook with Ubuntu mixed in but didn't care to try after setting it up.

WayneBro 10y ago

That would be missing the point entirely due to the fact that most users care more about ease of use and apps than "advanced configuration". Not sure why we have to "sit anybody down" either...that sounds a bit forceful and unnecessary. Last time I checked, "better" is completely subjective. But for the record, most people think Windows is better since that's what they've voted for with their dollars. Windows won the desktop war. It's got more users, more apps, more consistency, more stability, more commercial support...more everything. People still fighting for desktop Linux to become popular with regular users are like Hiroo Onoda, the japanese soldier who kept fighting WW2 for 30 years. Good luck with that!

alkonaut 10y ago
The biggest issue imho is that there just isn't a nice consistent desktop story for linux. Making an application with a nice consistent setup and UI experience across all desktop environments and all distributions without having to distribute to several different package repositories or test on these distributions or window managers? Until that works there is no one Linux desktop - only several different Linux desktops, each with too little traction.