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>An obstacle in the LIDAR is an obstacle, there's no common-sense or training needed for the car to know that. >Worst-case scenario for a well-designed car in
by goodplay 10y ago
>An obstacle in the LIDAR is an obstacle, there's no common-sense or training needed for the car to know that.
>Worst-case scenario for a well-designed car in a situation it can't understand is to park itself and refuse to go on unassisted.
All these are false positives. What I object to are the costs of false negatives; A situation where the car mis-recognizes an abnormal situation as normal, and then proceeds to act on it's failed understanding.
The Tesla is a good example of this; the car failed to recognize the obstacle in front of it and acted accordingly (namely, crashing full speed into the object). Regardless of the underlying reason, a machine did not recognize it was in an unknown setting, and thus failed to react correctly. A human, on the other hand, notices, and will generally use what capabilities they possess to at least attempt to handle the situation safely.
I do acknowledge that self-driving cars will likely be statistically safer, but until these cars completely exceed the all the capabilities of human drivers, I refuse to trust them. Regardless of statistics.
- mixedCase 10y ago>The Tesla is a good example of this A car without LIDAR, only relying on camera. >A human, on the other hand, notices The camera didn't even doubt that there wasn't an obstacle in its path due to how it camouflaged against the background. I doubt the human would've seen it. And you're speaking of a prototype hacked on a car barely prepared for self-driving situations (again, no LIDAR and early iteration) and being used improperly. You're not making a good argument here.
- euyyn 10y agoSo your numerous examples are the one example of a car crash for not using a LIDAR?