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> Yup. John Gruber is well-known as a fan boy. That doesn't deny the points he makes in the article. Do you contest his analysis of the changes between the iPho

> Yup. John Gruber is well-known as a fan boy. That doesn't deny the points he makes in the article. Do you contest his analysis of the changes between the iPhone 6 and iPhone 7? After all, that's what you're arguing, correct? That's not what I'm arguing. I don't care if the insides of the iPhone 7 are 100% different than the insides of the iPhone 6S. The bottom line is that Apple created an expectation, and failed to meet it. The particular expectation in the case of the iPhone was for an external redesign, but that's not really what matters. What matters is that Apple created an expectation and failed to meet it. That's not what good businesses do. Either they don't care, which is bad, or they can't meet the expectation, which is worse.

grzm 10y ago
Okay. In addition to updating the form factor on a regular basis, how else did Apple create or reinforce this expectation? Frankly, I think that would make for a very interesting blog post. Looking back at the history of iPhone releases: Source: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/iphone-through-the-ages-just-how-much-has-it-changed-1178988 http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobil... - iPhone 1 June 2007 - iPhone 3G July 2008 (13 months) - iPhone 4 June 2010 (23 months) - iPhone 5 Sept 2012 (27 months) - iPhone 6 Sept 2014 (24 months) There have been 3 cycles of the bienniel updates, the majority. Honest question, is that alone enough to set expectations? Should they iterate even when they really don't have any idea how to improve it? Iterate for iteration's sake? Wouldn't that mean at least meaningless cost at best, and possibly decrease the value of the design? Given that the iPhone is a major source of Apple revenue, this is an important question. How much can we read into Apple's prospects for the future based on the lack of a significant form factor update with the iPhone 7? By the way, I agree with you on the Mac Pro and the Mac mini. I'd really like to see strong updates in these areas. However, I don't know what the market looks like for these form factors these days. Of the two, I'm only interested in a mini. I have been for quite a while (it would replace a PowerPC model, FFS) yet I haven't pulled the trigger, so am I really in the market? Same with pro-level software such as Final Cut and Aperture (pretty significant when it came out).

grzm 10y ago

Okay. In addition to updating the form factor on a regular basis, how else did Apple create or reinforce this expectation? Frankly, I think that would make for a very interesting blog post. Looking back at the history of iPhone releases: Source: http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/iphone-through-the-ages-just-how-much-has-it-changed-1178988 http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobil... - iPhone 1 June 2007 - iPhone 3G July 2008 (13 months) - iPhone 4 June 2010 (23 months) - iPhone 5 Sept 2012 (27 months) - iPhone 6 Sept 2014 (24 months) There have been 3 cycles of the bienniel updates, the majority. Honest question, is that alone enough to set expectations? Should they iterate even when they really don't have any idea how to improve it? Iterate for iteration's sake? Wouldn't that mean at least meaningless cost at best, and possibly decrease the value of the design? Given that the iPhone is a major source of Apple revenue, this is an important question. How much can we read into Apple's prospects for the future based on the lack of a significant form factor update with the iPhone 7? By the way, I agree with you on the Mac Pro and the Mac mini. I'd really like to see strong updates in these areas. However, I don't know what the market looks like for these form factors these days. Of the two, I'm only interested in a mini. I have been for quite a while (it would replace a PowerPC model, FFS) yet I haven't pulled the trigger, so am I really in the market? Same with pro-level software such as Final Cut and Aperture (pretty significant when it came out).