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I agree with the first portion of your post, but I'm not entirely convinced on the second. I do think it is entirely within the realm of possibility that Apple

I agree with the first portion of your post, but I'm not entirely convinced on the second. I do think it is entirely within the realm of possibility that Apple will kill off their desktop and laptop lines. I think it's a ways off, but Apple's refusal to evolve in any meaningful way in the space might make their efforts a legacy line at best.

grzm 10y ago
I think it's a ways off Want to weigh in on a time line? To misquote Fight Club, “On a long enough time line, the survival rate for every product drops to zero.” Apple's refusal to evolve in any meaningful way in the space Given the complaints about the changes Apple made in the most recent MBP update, what evolution are you looking for? Touchbar, larger trackpad, and USB-C aren't meaningful? Continuing to reduce the size of the machine? Those all seem evolutionary (rather than revolutionary), and quite typical of the iterative updates Apple is known for. Are only increased memory and CPU speeds meaningful? Or the lack of a touch screen? Maybe no equivalent to the MS Surface Book? What would constitute a meaningful change for you? Feeling my oats a little bit, so feel free to push back. I can understand people not being happy with the new Macbook Pros for a variety of reasons. However, refusal to evolve in any meaningful way sounds unjustified.
gwern 10y ago
Or do something radical to kill the need for desktops and laptops. A dock with a monitor and a keyboard you slot your iPhone into? I would say it sounds absurd but given how many people claim, even on HN, to find it satisfactory to program and SSH and everything else on their iPads...
mrep 10y ago
> I do think it is entirely within the realm of possibility that Apple will kill off their desktop and laptop lines. How would anyone develop apps for their IOS devices than?
- nestlequ1k 10y ago
  Probably using Visual Studio on a Windows machine.
- bergie 10y ago
  I don't think XCode for iPad is that far

grzm 10y ago

I think it's a ways off Want to weigh in on a time line? To misquote Fight Club, “On a long enough time line, the survival rate for every product drops to zero.” Apple's refusal to evolve in any meaningful way in the space Given the complaints about the changes Apple made in the most recent MBP update, what evolution are you looking for? Touchbar, larger trackpad, and USB-C aren't meaningful? Continuing to reduce the size of the machine? Those all seem evolutionary (rather than revolutionary), and quite typical of the iterative updates Apple is known for. Are only increased memory and CPU speeds meaningful? Or the lack of a touch screen? Maybe no equivalent to the MS Surface Book? What would constitute a meaningful change for you? Feeling my oats a little bit, so feel free to push back. I can understand people not being happy with the new Macbook Pros for a variety of reasons. However, refusal to evolve in any meaningful way sounds unjustified.

gwern 10y ago

Or do something radical to kill the need for desktops and laptops. A dock with a monitor and a keyboard you slot your iPhone into? I would say it sounds absurd but given how many people claim, even on HN, to find it satisfactory to program and SSH and everything else on their iPads...

mrep 10y ago

> I do think it is entirely within the realm of possibility that Apple will kill off their desktop and laptop lines. How would anyone develop apps for their IOS devices than?

nestlequ1k 10y ago
Probably using Visual Studio on a Windows machine.
bergie 10y ago
I don't think XCode for iPad is that far