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> There are lots of companies producing iOS and Mac apps. It is going to be easier than porting programs from Windows to Mac. Most of the application have serv

by gutnor 10y ago

> There are lots of companies producing iOS and Mac apps. It is going to be easier than porting programs from Windows to Mac. Most of the application have server-side components too and developers work on both side. Currently that means you can setup a develop with a MBP and he is setup. With an Ax MBP, that's no longer the case. Will they switch to another architecture keeping the same weaknesses as the current one ? What would be the point ? Apple is very opinionated with their stuff so can you be sure you will be able to run software like java ? That does not sound very likely. So yes, there are plenty of companies that will port the software. However, developers themselves will need to have their needs fulfilled by another company. That removes basically the last set of free professional endorsement for the platform and set it on equal footing with Google and Microsoft. I guess that's good for the competition.

majewsky 10y ago
What makes you think that the server-side components are going to be incompatible with Ax MBPs? Most open-source software runs just fine on ARM, and I would expect proprietary developers to quickly follow suit if Apple pushes Ax MBPs.
- gutnor 10y ago
  There is an enormous amount of assumption about what would the Ax MBP look like. People assume the current MBP with a different chipset. That's however not the trend that Apple is currently following. For example it does not seem likely you would be able to run the software you want on it, especially not VM or Java or server side component. Think of it - if you prevent that, you solve the virus and malware problem and that's something that people are actually quite ok with in their iPad and iPhone. It is just such a win for regular people that it must be what Apple would be going for. Maybe Apple will do a special "Developer" application that comes with a developer friendly package, tied to your AppDeveloper account. It will probably allows you to do most of your development, but not the complete freedom you currently have on the MBP. (and it will probably be nice, as you as you develop in the Apple ecosystem for the Apple ecosystem) That's IMO the best case scenario. Most likely they will simply drop the developer entirely. Sure they will keep some way of coding in a restricted fashion, but a professional that does not have the same requirement as a hobbyist home ios developer will find nothing in Apple product line. ( you can see hint of that: you would need plenty of different MBP configuration just to please a handful of people, while the market reality is that the new MBP is selling like hot cakes. Developer are just too difficult to please to be worthwhile ) That's the meaning of post-PC world. People using a PC will be specialist, there are going to be specialist brand to cater to their need. That's not going to come from a consumer brand like Apple.

by gutnor 10y ago

majewsky 10y ago

What makes you think that the server-side components are going to be incompatible with Ax MBPs? Most open-source software runs just fine on ARM, and I would expect proprietary developers to quickly follow suit if Apple pushes Ax MBPs.

gutnor 10y ago
There is an enormous amount of assumption about what would the Ax MBP look like. People assume the current MBP with a different chipset. That's however not the trend that Apple is currently following. For example it does not seem likely you would be able to run the software you want on it, especially not VM or Java or server side component. Think of it - if you prevent that, you solve the virus and malware problem and that's something that people are actually quite ok with in their iPad and iPhone. It is just such a win for regular people that it must be what Apple would be going for. Maybe Apple will do a special "Developer" application that comes with a developer friendly package, tied to your AppDeveloper account. It will probably allows you to do most of your development, but not the complete freedom you currently have on the MBP. (and it will probably be nice, as you as you develop in the Apple ecosystem for the Apple ecosystem) That's IMO the best case scenario. Most likely they will simply drop the developer entirely. Sure they will keep some way of coding in a restricted fashion, but a professional that does not have the same requirement as a hobbyist home ios developer will find nothing in Apple product line. ( you can see hint of that: you would need plenty of different MBP configuration just to please a handful of people, while the market reality is that the new MBP is selling like hot cakes. Developer are just too difficult to please to be worthwhile ) That's the meaning of post-PC world. People using a PC will be specialist, there are going to be specialist brand to cater to their need. That's not going to come from a consumer brand like Apple.