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Can you really build flash apps for free? Honest question — I thought you needed to have Flash. If you do need Flash, you have things backwards. For one, he's

by zefhous 16y ago

Can you really build flash apps for free? Honest question — I thought you needed to have Flash. If you do need Flash, you have things backwards. For one, he's talking about web apps, not iPhone OS apps. Web apps are entirely open and Apple is huge on pushing what you can do with the web. Also, building iPhone OS apps is absolutely free. The entire SDK and documentation is free of charge, you just need a Mac to develop on. You need a $100 membership to sell iPhone apps, which is very different from needing it to try out development. Flash on the other hand, costs $700. Flash is entirely closed. Apple is mostly closed and is totally up front about it, but they completely support open web standards.

efsavage 16y ago
http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Flex+SDK;jsessionid=B9ED21964C23482B537C03B5E835AF3E http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Flex+SDK;js... http://www.libming.org/ http://www.libming.org/ http://www.swftools.org/ http://www.swftools.org/
Sindisil 16y ago
Yes you can. The compiler is free and open (http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Flex+SDK http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Flex+SDK). That, an editor, and Bob's your uncle. On Windows, there's also a nice open source IDE (http://flashdevelop.org http://flashdevelop.org). The one thing that's not open source is the player, and that is free.
- megablast 16y ago
  You realise that Adobe lets you make any components you want EXCEPT FOR THE PLAYER? Why, because they want to retain control of it. I mean, they publish the spec, people have made players before, and they have been told by Adobe to stop. Sounds familiar.
  - stuntmouse 16y ago
    It'd be interesting to pressure Adobe on this point right now, given the context.
  - Sindisil 16y ago
    That is incorrect. They used place that restriction on those accessing the .swf spec, but that restriction has been lifted. I'd have to check, but I think it's been several years now, but it's certainly been more than a year.
ekiru 16y ago
Building iPhone OS apps is free if you have a Mac and don't want to test or use those apps on an actual iPhone OS device.

by zefhous 16y ago

efsavage 16y ago

http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Flex+SDK;jsessionid=B9ED21964C23482B537C03B5E835AF3E http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Flex+SDK;js... http://www.libming.org/ http://www.libming.org/ http://www.swftools.org/ http://www.swftools.org/

Sindisil 16y ago

Yes you can. The compiler is free and open (http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Flex+SDK http://opensource.adobe.com/wiki/display/flexsdk/Flex+SDK). That, an editor, and Bob's your uncle. On Windows, there's also a nice open source IDE (http://flashdevelop.org http://flashdevelop.org). The one thing that's not open source is the player, and that is free.

megablast 16y ago
You realise that Adobe lets you make any components you want EXCEPT FOR THE PLAYER? Why, because they want to retain control of it. I mean, they publish the spec, people have made players before, and they have been told by Adobe to stop. Sounds familiar.
- stuntmouse 16y ago
  It'd be interesting to pressure Adobe on this point right now, given the context.
- Sindisil 16y ago
  That is incorrect. They used place that restriction on those accessing the .swf spec, but that restriction has been lifted. I'd have to check, but I think it's been several years now, but it's certainly been more than a year.

ekiru 16y ago

Building iPhone OS apps is free if you have a Mac and don't want to test or use those apps on an actual iPhone OS device.