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Funding the Web with Brendan Eich [audio]
- dredmorbius 10y agoTranscript / summary?
- jdormit 10y agoFrom the episode description: > Brendan Eich, founder of Brave and creator of JavaScript, joined the show to talk about the history of the web, how it has been funded, and the backstory on the early browser wars and emerging monetization models. We also talked about why big problems are hard to solve for the Internet and the tradeoffs between centralization and distribution.
- dkarapetyan 10y agoA lot of interesting stuff: search revenue tapering off because of rising mobile usage, ransomware being spread through ad exchanges, owning your own data and privacy, using zero knowledge proofs for distributing revenue to publishers through brave, tiers of privacy and monetization strategies around it, sustainability issues around browser development and open source software in general, shared costs of platform code and how open source fits into that, etc. You really should listen to it. Brendan Eich is a really smart person.
- kartickv 10y agoAnything concrete I can do today as a (web) app developer?
- dkarapetyan 10y agoRespect user privacy. Read up on zero-knowledge proofs and how they can be used to validate client claims without leaking their data. Those are the two that come to mind first. I'm sure there is plenty more to be gleaned from the interview.
- pcprincipal 10y agoThis is an absolutely terrific podcast. Two other great ones from the Changelog guys: - Andrew Godwin on Django / Django Channels / Python - https://changelog.com/podcast/229 https://changelog.com/podcast/229 - Eli Bixby on Tensorflow / Deep Learning -https://changelog.com/podcast/219 https://changelog.com/podcast/219 Would love to hear other podcasts people enjoy.
- aczerepinski 10y agoI like Changelog when the hosts have familiarity with the tech in question. Ruby ones are good in that respect. There are recent-ish Sandi Metz and Yukihiro Matsumoto episodes.
- myth_drannon 10y agoTim Ferris show is usually a gold mine. #193 - life extension, #106 Scott Adams/Dilbert Malcolm Gladwell's Revisionist History- Hallelujah episode is great, exploration into different types of innovation/genius Reply all - #50 The Cathedral, father makes a video game about the death of his son. Very difficult episode to listen specially if you have children. I keep thinking about starting something like Goodreads just for podcasts...
- chadk 10y agoTotally would use!
- sotojuan 10y agoI have to agree. The Changelog is the best general tech podcast out there. Hosts are good, guests are good, audio quality is good (even when the guests are using Apple earbud mics), and their site is super fast. I was really sad when I ran out of episodes to listen to——now I have to wait a week.
- kriro 10y agoChangelog and FLOSS weekly are the two I listen to occasionally. FLOSS weekly kind of varies and mostly depends on who they have on.
- alexnewman 10y agoI have worked at cloudera, intel and a few other firms in the valley. I now do a bit of work for brave and I will have to say they are the real deal. Total badasses led by the king of the nerds (IMHO) eich themselves.
- alexnewman 10y agoIf you think brave is cool now just wait for 1.0 . Some of the features are going to be mind boggling.
- biocomputation 10y agoBut what's the point of doing 'mind boggling' features for a browser that's only going to have 0.00000000001% market share? Even Mozilla is fighting a HUGE uphill battle to stay current and they have enormous funding and mind / market share compared to Brave. Then there are Edge and Chrome, both of which are supported by multi-national corporations with infinite resources. It's certainly not impossible for Brave to succeed, but its chances of ever gathering any significant market share are vanishingly small. If for no other reason than Brave will have to get tens / hundreds of millions of people to change their behavior in order for them to gain any significant share. I feel like it's game over for any new browser that doesn't have some utterly astonishing new value proposition.
- hackuser 10y agoThat reasoning applies to many startups. You should give motivational speeches in SV. What were Mozilla's odds when they took on IE and Microsoft? What were Facebook's chances against MySpace, backed by multinational News Corp? Airbnb against the entire hotel industry, which has a few multinationals in it?
- davidgerard 10y ago> What were Mozilla's odds when they took on IE and Microsoft? Pretty good given they had the backing of Netscape. (Even if AOL messed them around at the time.) I recall that Mozilla 1.0's value proposition to naive users at the time was "No popups" - even in 2002, adblock-like behaviour was a selling point. (The value proposition to geeks was vastly different and more elaborate, but "Mozilla blocks popups" was radical enough to make it into web comics.)
- curt15 10y ago
- Vera527 10y agoI love how you used the "[audio]" tag in your title.
- dkarapetyan 10y agoI didn't. It was done on my behalf by the moderators.
- wyclif 10y agoThis is a great podcast episode. I recommend listening to it with zero distractions though, because Eich speaks at a pretty brisk clip and assumes listeners know what he's referring to. I like that, because sometimes I have to speed up the audio a bit on other podcasts.
- turingbook 10y agoIs there any good tool to turn Audio into transcript? It took longer for me to listen than read.
- grzm 10y agoI'd be interested as well. Youtube apparently has some thing, but I don't know of anything standalone.
- nvahalik 10y agoMost podcatchers allow you to increase playback speed.
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- skoocda 10y agohttps://app.spreza.co https://app.spreza.co We've been working on this recently- it's not yet a public release, but it is useful (and free). Just make an account and upload the MP3. Allows you to read, listen or both at the same time. Takes about 1/2 the time of the audio file to process.
- BrendanEich 10y agoI regret I named Giorgios Kontaxis when I meant Constantine Dovrolis (http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~dovrolis/Papers/evoarch-extended.pdf http://www.cc.gatech.edu/~dovrolis/Papers/evoarch-extended.p...) at one point. I usually keep Greek names as well memorized as any others!
- natch 10y agoWhile you're here... did you that know brave.com has an invalid TLS certificate? The trust chain goes up to a GlobalSign intermediate CA cert (SHA1 fingerprint B4 18 B3 2D B3 B8 CF 9F DF A1 9C C3 12 16 85 2F CC 82 86 E3) which has been revoked.
- icebraining 10y agoSeems fine here, I'm getting a cert from Fastly which chains up to "GlobalSign CloudSSL CA - SHA256 - G3".
- captn3m0 10y agoI get a valid cert from Fastly as well. What IP does it resolve to for you? Non-authoritative answer: Name: brave.com Address: 151.101.65.7 Name: brave.com Address: 151.101.1.7 Name: brave.com Address: 151.101.129.7 Name: brave.com Address: 151.101.193.7
- natch 10y agonslookup gives me the same addresses, just in a different order: Non-authoritative answer: Name: brave.com Address: 151.101.129.7 Name: brave.com Address: 151.101.1.7 Name: brave.com Address: 151.101.193.7 Name: brave.com Address: 151.101.65.7
- ctz 10y agoAre you suffering from this? https://www.globalsign.com/en/customer-revocation-error/ https://www.globalsign.com/en/customer-revocation-error/
- erlend_sh 10y agoAs always with the RFC podcast I really enjoyed the episode, and Brave sounds intriguIng, so I've downloaded it. That being said, I missed the usual back-and-forth of the podcast. What I like about the show is that the hosts usually add a lot of value to the conversation, but this was mostly Brendan talking about Brave. I had hoped for a broader look at "how to fund the web", taking into account other experiments such as paywalls, the Acceptable Ads initiative, Blendle or whatever is on your collective radar.