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My 2013 MBP is great, I can see it lasting a few more years even. It was that forward looking. A 2016 MBP... I can't see it holding up. The cap on RAM I'm al

My 2013 MBP is great, I can see it lasting a few more years even. It was that forward looking. A 2016 MBP... I can't see it holding up. The cap on RAM I'm already butting up against it... Photoshop, VMs, site crawls, loading large spreadsheets and trying to crunch the numbers... 16 GB taxes my current system. I've sort of just given up, I have a gaming desktop I built myself a year or so back with 64 GB of RAM. I just use that when I want to do "work" now... everything loads faster. Freakin' hate that I can't just buy a new MBP for that stuff, but... it's not top of the line, isn't built to last like previous generations were. I'll keep my 2013 MBP until it gives out on me I guess... running out of Apple Care on it and the battery cycles are high... also not wild about trusting work to a 3-year-old SSD... but cross my fingers I guess. My sister still uses my old MBP from 2008 or so -- it holds up for most of her needs after a replacement battery and SSD, it's still a solid computer. I don't see these new MBPs holding up like that at all. Not going to say the new MBPs are shit, but they aren't built to be light-years ahead like they once were. That's what I think everyone is upset about.

bane 10y ago
I think what's most upsetting to me is that not only are they not built to be light-years ahead, but the fact that they aren't is explicitly due to self-imposed constraints by Apple. And then because of this, they now sell a machine that's effectively the same as the one they sold 3 years ago, but now at a higher price. This is virtually unprecedented in the history of computing, and the last time these kinds of shenanigans happened was at the tail end of the 8-bit era, and all of those companies, even ones who had a virtual monopoly on the market, don't exist anymore.
- dbg31415 10y ago
  Think it's an intentional move to have a shorter product lifespan to sell more computers? I go to thinking about that more... seems like they benefit form making less-great computers than they used to.

bane 10y ago

I think what's most upsetting to me is that not only are they not built to be light-years ahead, but the fact that they aren't is explicitly due to self-imposed constraints by Apple. And then because of this, they now sell a machine that's effectively the same as the one they sold 3 years ago, but now at a higher price. This is virtually unprecedented in the history of computing, and the last time these kinds of shenanigans happened was at the tail end of the 8-bit era, and all of those companies, even ones who had a virtual monopoly on the market, don't exist anymore.

dbg31415 10y ago
Think it's an intentional move to have a shorter product lifespan to sell more computers? I go to thinking about that more... seems like they benefit form making less-great computers than they used to.