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The main problem I've had with Chinese students is rampant cheating and lying, including with help from Chinese professors. I dated a Chinese girl in my PhD pro
by aisofteng 10y ago
The main problem I've had with Chinese students is rampant cheating and lying, including with help from Chinese professors. I dated a Chinese girl in my PhD program for a bit and she showed me it all first hand, including a Chinese professor giving exams to his Chinese students ahead of time. She giggled about it and didn't see a problem; to her, it was just an easy way to get ahead.
During undergraduate, I participated in international competitions twice, both times with a Chinese girl on the team I led and who both times tried to collude with competing teams in China (who were colluding with each other) until I yelled at her to either stop or get out of the room and let the rest of the team finish without her.
I've seen this in two out of two institutions, and have had this confirmed by friends at other schools.
In the first big boy job I got, we hired a Chinese guy who ended up having lied on his resume about being able to code. At my last position, I've admonished the Chinese guy on my team at least once for copy pasting others' code into PRs without understanding it (which would never even occur to me to do because it is so obviously wrong), and have once caught flat out lying about having done something, apparently because he thought I wouldn't check his work.
All of these cases have been with people who went to high school or undergrad in China. The ones I've met who grew up here seem to be better about it.
So, personally, I look down on what I've seen of Chinese culture for this reason. Not people - culture; when I work with someone that grew up in China, I check for cheating and lies, because of what I've seen of the culture. With people that grew up outside China, I don't worry as much.
I expect I'll get a negative response to this, and I don't care. I'm criticizing a culture, not a race, and these are my life experiences with that culture. It's possible I've just had an extremely unlikely series of uncounters, but, tautologically, that is extremely unlikely.
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- meric 10y agoI acknowledge your observations and would like to note the culture between Chinese students in China, Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia, Indonesia, Vietnam are all different and warn you against pinning Chinese culture with cheating. I imagine the behaviour you are talking about is more unthinkable to Singaporean Chinese than even to you yourself for example.
- aisofteng 10y agoEveryone I mentioned is from mainland China. I don't have reason to believe it's the same elsewhere. As I said, my comment is about one particular country's culture, not a race.