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Just as a note to anyone wanting to pick one up. The webcam is down by the keyboard, and not in the bezel above the screen. So if you work remote, all your fell
by hmottestad 10y ago
Just as a note to anyone wanting to pick one up. The webcam is down by the keyboard, and not in the bezel above the screen. So if you work remote, all your fellow workmates will be staring up your nose.
https://www.google.no/search?q=xps+13+webcam&safe=off&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjwuZORhMnQAhXLBcAKHeUnDlwQ_AUICCgB&biw=1068&bih=816 https://www.google.no/search?q=xps+13+webcam&safe=off&source...
- aneidon 10y agoAs shown in this Ars review: http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/11/dell-xps-13-kaby-lake-review/ http://arstechnica.co.uk/gadgets/2016/11/dell-xps-13-kaby-la...
- ryanlol 10y agoSeems like it might work fine on a couch or such.
- cadecairos 10y agoIt really doesn't. I've got the XPS 15 and the camera is similarly placed. The optimal solution is to just run a USB webcam to the top of an external monitor. On the go, you're SOL. Not only can everyone see up your nose, but don't even try typing unless you want to distract everyone with some nice finger close-ups.
- dugmartin 10y agoI do the same - first so my clients aren't looking at the side of my face as I'm looking at them on my main monitor and second because the built in webcam quality is pretty horrible.
- sundvor 10y agoMight be good if you don't type touch then. It'll look like you're looking at the camera (them) more often. (As for myself, I'd just look arrogant...) The minute someone can magic out a way to turn a monitor into a multi point camera, add some eye tracking logic and integrate that with the conference display, we'll have a small video teleconference revolution on our hands. Unfortunately, doing a search I see that Apple has already thought of that.. http://appleinsider.com/articles/09/01/08/apple_files_patent_for_camera_hidden_behind_display http://appleinsider.com/articles/09/01/08/apple_files_patent...
- 20161112 10y agoA bit 1984 for my tastes. I still put tape over my laptop webcam.
- andrepd 10y agoAs you should. If Zuckerberg does it so do you.
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- sliken 10y agoThe real answer is a 3d camera. That way you can actually make eye contact and interact much more realistically. Fortunately the apple patent doesn't seem to apply.
- sundvor 10y agoAh, yes, that sounds like what we need! Eye contact is lost with today's cameras, and solving this would have a great impact on remote communications.
- wyclif 10y agoWhy on earth would they place the webcam there?
- morsch 10y agoThe XPS 13 pioneered ultra-thin bezels which really are quite cool[0] -- not just visually: they shrunk the device footprint while keeping the screen the same size. The poor webcam position was a casualty of that design. What's a bit weird is that even in this, what, second or third revision, they haven't managed to engineer around this issue despite it being mentioned as a major downside practically every time the laptop comes up. [0] Striking comparison with a contemporary MBP: https://www.windowscentral.com/sites/wpcentral.com/files/styles/xlarge_wm_brw/public/field/image/2015/02/xps-13-macbook-pro-hero.jpg https://www.windowscentral.com/sites/wpcentral.com/files/sty...
- lm2s 10y agoWhat would be the reason for such (seemingly bad) decision?
- fekberg 10y agoDue to "InfinityEdge Display", there's no room to put it anywhere else. It does make the built in webcam rather useless, I've got an external (Logitech 920) webcam. Look at the InfinityEdge Display here: http://www.weboo.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/New-Dell-XP-15-inch-Features-Borderless-Infinity-Edge-Touch-Display.jpg http://www.weboo.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/06/New-Dell-XP-1...
- matt_kantor 10y agoStrange, that link redirects to http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j53/colgate12/weboo-co-imgs_zpsxb7s99vj.jpg http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j53/colgate12/weboo-co-img... when I follow it in my normal browser session. It works as expected from incognito mode.
- userbinator 10y agoWhy couldn't they do something like this? https://files.catbox.moe/2nnsm3.jpg https://files.catbox.moe/2nnsm3.jpg
- bmurphy1976 10y agoThey should have done something like this, but it's Dell, not Apple. I've used a number of their top of the line products over the years, and they've always been riddled with cost-saving compromises like this. If they put the bezel on top, they'd have to invest more money into the display hinge as well instead of whatever cheap plastic parts they currently use. That would eat into their profits, so it won't happen until the competition forces it.
- roryisok 10y agoEvery xps 13 review I've seen mentions this as a big minus. I haven't used it yet, so I don't know, but is it really that big a deal? Seems like its a fair trade off for an edge to edge screen?
- humanrebar 10y agoAre webcams that hard to configure?
- morganvachon 10y agoI think you misunderstood. The physical location of the webcam is so low on the device that it can only show the user from slightly underneath. This can't be fixed in software.
- alistairSH 10y agoI think he meant an external webcam, which I suppose works well enough if you work at the same desk most of the time.
- pgaddict 10y agoI don't even remember when I actually used a webcam on a laptop. I'm either in a conference room with dedicated camera, or doing voice-only meetings when traveling.
- dorfsmay 10y agoCamera focused on fingers: the digital era!
- e40 10y agoGiven the security fears of cameras, I think it would be nice to have a no-camera option. Those that want a camera can then use a USB one, the main feature of which is that it can be unplugged when not in use.
- numerlo 10y agoGo old school and use a tape, it should work just as well.
- scurvy 10y agoHow do you deal with the microphone?
- Faaak 10y agoTake a needle and punch it
- scurvy 10y agoWhat if you need it one day? You can remove tape from the web cam, but a needle is quite permanent.
- scrollaway 10y agoI can't tell if it's a serious comment or not but in case it's serious: Why even buy a laptop? If you're paranoid enough to want to do this sort of thing to something you're paying over $1.5k for, have you realized the consequences of what other things a bad agent can do? Your data, your files are more valuable to the NSA than your microphone. If they care about what you're saying, your house is already bugged.
- lazarus101 10y agoYes, because you can't buy a standalone webcam...
- ilogik 10y agoMy boss has an older model. Every time he's on Skype, and he's typing, his hand is huge ,on the screen
- gcb0 10y agoit is a usability choice. camera up top = screen down a inch. Camera on the bottom = screen up a inch. I rater the camera be clumsy since i use it 0.001% of the time, and the screen be 1" up since i use it all the time. 1" seems small. but that is probably 10 degrees on your neck if you have the laptop at half arms reach.