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Isn't this just called a hostel? That just sounds like your friend is living in a hostel dorm. $20/day actually sounds cheap now that I'm looking at hostel ra

by blhack 10y ago

Isn't this just called a hostel? That just sounds like your friend is living in a hostel dorm. $20/day actually sounds cheap now that I'm looking at hostel rates in LA: http://www.hostelworld.com/search?search_keywords=Los+Angeles%2C+USA&country=USA&city=Los-Angeles&date_from=2016-11-27&date_to=2016-11-30&number_of_guests=2&sort=price&prevSort=price http://www.hostelworld.com/search?search_keywords=Los+Angele...

TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
The loan repayments on my three bedroom house are AU$47 a day, or about US$35. ($215,000 purchase price in 2016).
- blhack 10y ago
  It sounds like you have a mortgage... What is your point?
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  - cb18 10y ago
    I suspect he's saying that his daily payment on his house is roughly on par, or less than the daily rate of a high priced hostel. You could have figured that out yourself without the attitude, right?
    - BoorishBears 10y ago
      Except that's not really saying much. If there was nothing more to owning a house than paying a mortgage instead of rent everyone would own a house and never rent. The cost to live in the hostel when you include all factors is lower even if the daily rates were the same.
    - dsjoerg 10y ago
      i thought it was common knowledge that real estate prices vary around the world. a lot. if Proud Aussie saying anything more than that? and that Proud Aussie has a mortgage?
    - blhack 10y ago
      GP's point was that their friend had to find a place to stay with one day's notice which seemed to be the limiting factor. A mortgaged house, and short-notice, temporary housing are not in the same category. I was asking if there was some point that the person I was responding to was trying to make that I wasn't seeing.
- repsilat 10y ago
  Is your $215k Aussie house in close to town in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane? There are plenty of cheap houses in America too, living in LA/SF/NYC is a luxury that people pay a premium for.
  - zik 10y ago
    There are no decent houses anywhere near the major cities of Australia to be had for anywhere near $215k. The median house price in Australia is $659k. The apartment median is $518k.
  - TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
    No, no it's not. I live in Launceston, Tasmania - population approx. 100,000 people. living in LA/SF/NYC is a luxury that people pay a premium for. Yeah nah. I don't really follow this. Unless you consider terrible traffic and less than idea air quality luxuries. Having said that, I did live in Adelaide for 13 years. Okay, I'm being too critical, too inflammatory. Big cities bring people together in a pretty special way that enables all sorts of culture to arise that doesn't happen here, in these big country towns, or struggles to exist on the fringes as a caricature of it's big-city counterpart. And I definitely miss that. Choices, I guess. I can't afford to buy a house in any suburb I'd like to live in in the big cities in Australia. And I'm getting too old to rent or sharehouse. It's good here, 800 rock climbing routes within an hours drive of my house; kayaking and surfing; high-speed internet and Hacker News; a dog; business opportunities we're putting in to action.
    - r2pleasent 10y ago
      Yeah nah. I don't really follow this. Unless you consider terrible traffic and less than idea air quality luxuries. Having said that, I did live in Adelaide for 13 years. It's a fact, not a matter of opinion. People definitely do pay a premium for the luxury of living in LA/SF/NYC. Just look at the rents as you move further away from the center of the cities. You and I may argue whether it's worth paying that premium, but that's a separate conversation. Location is the most important valuation metric in real estate. A one acre piece of land in rural America could be worth $5,000. An acre in Manhattan is worth $90M+.[1] [1] http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/2100-a-square-foot-for-vacant-land/ http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/2100-a-square-f...
- dionidium 10y ago
  The all-in daily cost for my mother's South St. Louis City bungalow is $16.50. That includes mortgage repayment, property taxes, and insurance on a conventional 30-year loan with 20% down. She lives in a structurally intact, solidly working-class portion of the city. The point is that a lot of people don't want to live in a South St. Louis City bungalow. (By the way, I think a lot of the snobbery around this is misguided, but it is what it is.)
  - TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
    Yep, that's it. I think I'm just taking pot-shots at my younger-self for being a misguided-snob.
zappo2938 10y ago
I've been to the Adventurer Hotel which is the first on that list a long, long time ago. I would not recommend it. I had a layover at LAX, their bus pulled up right in front of me, and some kids said get on. The staff, all the girls were from Russia or Poland and the guys were from New Zealand, Australia, and one bloke from England, on the bus made a pit stop at the liqueur store. They bought at least 12 liters of booze. There wasn't a bar by the pool like in the pictures. They just set up a table by the pool. When the bus rolled in there was a prostitute on roller skates across the street and one prostitute half a block up 6 or 7 months pregnant. One guy says looks like roller girl is working tonight. The staff lived in the hotel rooms. This was during the Gulf War and the bus picked up two kids serving in the British army who just got a couple weeks leave. The Australian guy who worked at the front desk set up an elaborate plan to hook the soldiers up with a couple of the Russian girls who were waitresses in the bar. Early in the night he rounded a few of us up to pretend the party was in one of the empty hotel rooms. The staff were just people travelling from other countries working under the table. They just partied and partied with everyone who stayed there. He invited two Russian girls and the soldiers to join all of us in the room. As soon as they all got there the rest of us left. It worked because they ended up hanging out together all night. It just kept going on like that. It was wild and out of control. Frat parties are tame compared to what was going on there that night. There is no reason ever to stay there. If you do you will get bed bugs or hepatitis.
- apatters 10y ago
  Man, life was a lot more colorful before we started spending all our time behind a screen.
  - mistermann 10y ago
    Man ain't that the sad truth.
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- jasonkester 10y ago
  I'm with you right up to the point where you say you don't recommend staying at this place. From your description, this sounds like every backpacker hostel, everywhere. Or at least what they aspire to be. Sadly, everything moves upmarket, and "hostel" tends to now translate to giant soulless hotel where they have two or three bunk beds in each room and no real shared space or opportunity to meet other travelers (who realistically would now be staring at their phone the entire time they were in one of those shared spaces, so you'd never meet them anyway). But what you describe used to be every night of your round the world trip. It was fun.

by blhack 10y ago

TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago

The loan repayments on my three bedroom house are AU$47 a day, or about US$35. ($215,000 purchase price in 2016).

blhack 10y ago
It sounds like you have a mortgage... What is your point?
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
- cb18 10y ago
  I suspect he's saying that his daily payment on his house is roughly on par, or less than the daily rate of a high priced hostel. You could have figured that out yourself without the attitude, right?
  - BoorishBears 10y ago
    Except that's not really saying much. If there was nothing more to owning a house than paying a mortgage instead of rent everyone would own a house and never rent. The cost to live in the hostel when you include all factors is lower even if the daily rates were the same.
  - dsjoerg 10y ago
    i thought it was common knowledge that real estate prices vary around the world. a lot. if Proud Aussie saying anything more than that? and that Proud Aussie has a mortgage?
  - blhack 10y ago
    GP's point was that their friend had to find a place to stay with one day's notice which seemed to be the limiting factor. A mortgaged house, and short-notice, temporary housing are not in the same category. I was asking if there was some point that the person I was responding to was trying to make that I wasn't seeing.
repsilat 10y ago
Is your $215k Aussie house in close to town in Sydney, Melbourne or Brisbane? There are plenty of cheap houses in America too, living in LA/SF/NYC is a luxury that people pay a premium for.
- zik 10y ago
  There are no decent houses anywhere near the major cities of Australia to be had for anywhere near $215k. The median house price in Australia is $659k. The apartment median is $518k.
- TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
  No, no it's not. I live in Launceston, Tasmania - population approx. 100,000 people. living in LA/SF/NYC is a luxury that people pay a premium for. Yeah nah. I don't really follow this. Unless you consider terrible traffic and less than idea air quality luxuries. Having said that, I did live in Adelaide for 13 years. Okay, I'm being too critical, too inflammatory. Big cities bring people together in a pretty special way that enables all sorts of culture to arise that doesn't happen here, in these big country towns, or struggles to exist on the fringes as a caricature of it's big-city counterpart. And I definitely miss that. Choices, I guess. I can't afford to buy a house in any suburb I'd like to live in in the big cities in Australia. And I'm getting too old to rent or sharehouse. It's good here, 800 rock climbing routes within an hours drive of my house; kayaking and surfing; high-speed internet and Hacker News; a dog; business opportunities we're putting in to action.
  - r2pleasent 10y ago
    Yeah nah. I don't really follow this. Unless you consider terrible traffic and less than idea air quality luxuries. Having said that, I did live in Adelaide for 13 years. It's a fact, not a matter of opinion. People definitely do pay a premium for the luxury of living in LA/SF/NYC. Just look at the rents as you move further away from the center of the cities. You and I may argue whether it's worth paying that premium, but that's a separate conversation. Location is the most important valuation metric in real estate. A one acre piece of land in rural America could be worth $5,000. An acre in Manhattan is worth $90M+.[1] [1] http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/2100-a-square-foot-for-vacant-land/ http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/05/13/2100-a-square-f...
dionidium 10y ago
The all-in daily cost for my mother's South St. Louis City bungalow is $16.50. That includes mortgage repayment, property taxes, and insurance on a conventional 30-year loan with 20% down. She lives in a structurally intact, solidly working-class portion of the city. The point is that a lot of people don't want to live in a South St. Louis City bungalow. (By the way, I think a lot of the snobbery around this is misguided, but it is what it is.)
- TheSpiceIsLife 10y ago
  Yep, that's it. I think I'm just taking pot-shots at my younger-self for being a misguided-snob.

zappo2938 10y ago

I've been to the Adventurer Hotel which is the first on that list a long, long time ago. I would not recommend it. I had a layover at LAX, their bus pulled up right in front of me, and some kids said get on. The staff, all the girls were from Russia or Poland and the guys were from New Zealand, Australia, and one bloke from England, on the bus made a pit stop at the liqueur store. They bought at least 12 liters of booze. There wasn't a bar by the pool like in the pictures. They just set up a table by the pool. When the bus rolled in there was a prostitute on roller skates across the street and one prostitute half a block up 6 or 7 months pregnant. One guy says looks like roller girl is working tonight. The staff lived in the hotel rooms. This was during the Gulf War and the bus picked up two kids serving in the British army who just got a couple weeks leave. The Australian guy who worked at the front desk set up an elaborate plan to hook the soldiers up with a couple of the Russian girls who were waitresses in the bar. Early in the night he rounded a few of us up to pretend the party was in one of the empty hotel rooms. The staff were just people travelling from other countries working under the table. They just partied and partied with everyone who stayed there. He invited two Russian girls and the soldiers to join all of us in the room. As soon as they all got there the rest of us left. It worked because they ended up hanging out together all night. It just kept going on like that. It was wild and out of control. Frat parties are tame compared to what was going on there that night. There is no reason ever to stay there. If you do you will get bed bugs or hepatitis.

apatters 10y ago
Man, life was a lot more colorful before we started spending all our time behind a screen.
- mistermann 10y ago
  Man ain't that the sad truth.
- deleted 10y ago
  [deleted]
jasonkester 10y ago
I'm with you right up to the point where you say you don't recommend staying at this place. From your description, this sounds like every backpacker hostel, everywhere. Or at least what they aspire to be. Sadly, everything moves upmarket, and "hostel" tends to now translate to giant soulless hotel where they have two or three bunk beds in each room and no real shared space or opportunity to meet other travelers (who realistically would now be staring at their phone the entire time they were in one of those shared spaces, so you'd never meet them anyway). But what you describe used to be every night of your round the world trip. It was fun.