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Most European children don't go through Erasmus or inter rail. A train ticket for kids paid for by unwilling tax payers is little more than bribery and propaga

Most European children don't go through Erasmus or inter rail. A train ticket for kids paid for by unwilling tax payers is little more than bribery and propaganda. It's disgusting, they can't win the hearts and minds of the populace so they insinuated themselves in schools and now are outright bribing kids. I was pro-stay, but some of the stunts the EU are pulling to get kids to believe in EU federalisation are disgusting.

mrtksn 10y ago
I understand how it concerns you and how on principle can be against your ideology but I wouldn't call a train ticket "disgusting" :) Giving young people means to travel is not brain washing, it's actually the opposite as they can actually go to that country and see what it is all about so they would be less susceptible to propaganda. It's like public education but with no teachers to push an ideology(it's just a ticket, doesn't come with a guide), I would say that if EU manages to pull this of it would be a great public service.
k-mcgrady 10y ago
About 15% of students in Europe take part in Erasmus. Considering moving abroad alone for a year to a country where you don't necessarily speak the language is quite intimidating I'd say that's a pretty high number of students. As for inter rail - maybe the fact it's €400 just for the train ticket is why the only people I know who have done it are quite well off. Making it available to everyone who wants it should change that, opening the experience up to everyone regardless of background. Edit: Making an experience available to everyone isn't exactly propaganda.* *unlike that extra £350m pw going to the NHS
thechowchowman 10y ago
Whats wrong with wanting the youth of Europe to be well traveled and be versed in differnt cultures. Even if it is propaganda, it's certainly beneficial.
victornomad 10y ago
I did both Interrail and Erasmus and its probably the best things I did in my life. I will be more than happy to contribute to that with my taxes to give opportunities to young people to become more open minded.
ryanlol 10y ago
You don't feel that it could be described as education?

mrtksn 10y ago

I understand how it concerns you and how on principle can be against your ideology but I wouldn't call a train ticket "disgusting" :) Giving young people means to travel is not brain washing, it's actually the opposite as they can actually go to that country and see what it is all about so they would be less susceptible to propaganda. It's like public education but with no teachers to push an ideology(it's just a ticket, doesn't come with a guide), I would say that if EU manages to pull this of it would be a great public service.

k-mcgrady 10y ago

About 15% of students in Europe take part in Erasmus. Considering moving abroad alone for a year to a country where you don't necessarily speak the language is quite intimidating I'd say that's a pretty high number of students. As for inter rail - maybe the fact it's €400 just for the train ticket is why the only people I know who have done it are quite well off. Making it available to everyone who wants it should change that, opening the experience up to everyone regardless of background. Edit: Making an experience available to everyone isn't exactly propaganda.* *unlike that extra £350m pw going to the NHS

thechowchowman 10y ago

Whats wrong with wanting the youth of Europe to be well traveled and be versed in differnt cultures. Even if it is propaganda, it's certainly beneficial.

victornomad 10y ago

I did both Interrail and Erasmus and its probably the best things I did in my life. I will be more than happy to contribute to that with my taxes to give opportunities to young people to become more open minded.

ryanlol 10y ago

You don't feel that it could be described as education?