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i checked and ycombinator.com is not approved by PropOrNot (/s) Joking aside, it's not ridiculous to castigate a piece of bad journalism by a renowned paper. I

by return0 10y ago

i checked and ycombinator.com is not approved by PropOrNot (/s) Joking aside, it's not ridiculous to castigate a piece of bad journalism by a renowned paper. I suppose the McCarthy remark is a bit tongue-in-cheek, given how cold-war-like this situation is, but despite the hyperbolic title , the article is not full of hyperbole.

skrowl 10y ago
Drudge Report and Wikileaks are on the PropOrNot list. Do you believe that they're propaganda?
- hackuser 10y ago
  The list is of sources that repeat Russian propaganda, IIRC. If so, Wikileaks certainly belongs on the list, having published information very likely provided to them by Russian intelligence. Drudge would not surprise me, as it is already a propaganda site for the a U.S. political group.
  - return0 10y ago
    > Russian propaganda While it might be to their interests , podesta's emails were not russian propaganda per se.
    - hackuser 10y ago
      > While it might be to their interests , podesta's emails were not russian propaganda per se. As a technical point, real emails absolutely can be propaganda. Good propaganda isn't all lies, or even mostly lies. It needs to be believable, like a good con. This comment says it well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13045955 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13045955
      - return0 10y ago
        ok i love me some propaganda then
rounce 10y ago
> Joking aside, it's not ridiculous to castigate a piece of bad journalism by a renowned paper. Of course it isn't ridiculous, unless you do it in a thoroughly ridiculous manner. I read the article on TI first then the WaPo, and have to say it fell well short of expectations raised by the former. I was expecting something out of Pravda C1922. The article is almost entirely hyperbolic, to the point of imagining the motives of PropOrNot, and then analogising said motives (with an added twist of sinister for effect).

by return0 10y ago

skrowl 10y ago

Drudge Report and Wikileaks are on the PropOrNot list. Do you believe that they're propaganda?

hackuser 10y ago
The list is of sources that repeat Russian propaganda, IIRC. If so, Wikileaks certainly belongs on the list, having published information very likely provided to them by Russian intelligence. Drudge would not surprise me, as it is already a propaganda site for the a U.S. political group.
- return0 10y ago
  > Russian propaganda While it might be to their interests , podesta's emails were not russian propaganda per se.
  - hackuser 10y ago
    > While it might be to their interests , podesta's emails were not russian propaganda per se. As a technical point, real emails absolutely can be propaganda. Good propaganda isn't all lies, or even mostly lies. It needs to be believable, like a good con. This comment says it well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13045955 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13045955
    - return0 10y ago
      ok i love me some propaganda then

rounce 10y ago

> Joking aside, it's not ridiculous to castigate a piece of bad journalism by a renowned paper. Of course it isn't ridiculous, unless you do it in a thoroughly ridiculous manner. I read the article on TI first then the WaPo, and have to say it fell well short of expectations raised by the former. I was expecting something out of Pravda C1922. The article is almost entirely hyperbolic, to the point of imagining the motives of PropOrNot, and then analogising said motives (with an added twist of sinister for effect).