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This is a pretty ridiculous article, and I'm sad to say, indicative of what seem to be increasingly 'fast-and-loose' editorial standards on theintercept.com. As
by rounce 10y ago
This is a pretty ridiculous article, and I'm sad to say, indicative of what seem to be increasingly 'fast-and-loose' editorial standards on theintercept.com. As was mentioned by another commenter[0], the authors make some rather misleading allegations of their own without ever fully supporting them. Instead preferring to leap to extremes with cries of 'McCarthyism!', with seemingly little mind for it's significance, failing to draw any parallels between events reported and the Army-McCarthy hearings of the '50s. Not that the WaPo article was any good, but this is the pot calling the kettle black.
Heavy rhetoric with maximum volume; light on facts or any real point, other than being outraged or condescending.
Seems like the way all US political and cultural discourse is conducted nowadays, so not surprised really. Sad though.
Even (re)defined a whole lexicon to describe this narrow projection of the world. Conservative, Liberal, Progressive, Caucasian, African-American, Libertarian, Patriot, et al. All subtlety reduced to a set of meaningless labels that denote nothing but your "team". Invoking nothing other fear, rejection, aggression, and anger from any "opposition".
[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13045686 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13045686
- return0 10y agoi checked and ycombinator.com is not approved by PropOrNot (/s) Joking aside, it's not ridiculous to castigate a piece of bad journalism by a renowned paper. I suppose the McCarthy remark is a bit tongue-in-cheek, given how cold-war-like this situation is, but despite the hyperbolic title , the article is not full of hyperbole.
- skrowl 10y agoDrudge Report and Wikileaks are on the PropOrNot list. Do you believe that they're propaganda?
- hackuser 10y agoThe list is of sources that repeat Russian propaganda, IIRC. If so, Wikileaks certainly belongs on the list, having published information very likely provided to them by Russian intelligence. Drudge would not surprise me, as it is already a propaganda site for the a U.S. political group.
- return0 10y ago> Russian propaganda While it might be to their interests , podesta's emails were not russian propaganda per se.
- hackuser 10y ago> While it might be to their interests , podesta's emails were not russian propaganda per se. As a technical point, real emails absolutely can be propaganda. Good propaganda isn't all lies, or even mostly lies. It needs to be believable, like a good con. This comment says it well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13045955 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13045955
- return0 10y agook i love me some propaganda then
- rounce 10y ago> Joking aside, it's not ridiculous to castigate a piece of bad journalism by a renowned paper. Of course it isn't ridiculous, unless you do it in a thoroughly ridiculous manner. I read the article on TI first then the WaPo, and have to say it fell well short of expectations raised by the former. I was expecting something out of Pravda C1922. The article is almost entirely hyperbolic, to the point of imagining the motives of PropOrNot, and then analogising said motives (with an added twist of sinister for effect).