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We techies are guilty of always wanting everything. I see projects a lot of time, that won't move forward because the developers will not have the balls to stan

We techies are guilty of always wanting everything. I see projects a lot of time, that won't move forward because the developers will not have the balls to stand up and draw the line between things the software will to, and the software will not do. It's just more comfortable to avoid confrontation. When I read this, I felt that Steve really knows what he wants, and in order to get it, he is willing to eliminate things that are less important (even if that means he has to hurt some of our feelings). We all can disagree with some of the points made, but in the end the iPhone is unique (and successful), because it has a clear definition of what it's not.

ajross 16y ago
So this is all about Steve trying earnestly and selflessly to create the best platform possible, and not about trying to eliminate competition to his dominant platform by disallowing portable application environments? I swear, I used to think the reality distortion field was a dumb metaphor...
- tom_ilsinszki 16y ago
  You might be right about my vision being distorted, and I will think about that, but just so you understand me correctly: I did not say anything about selflessness. I have no doubt, that every move Apple makes is a business move; still, I don't think they only want to make money. They want to make money and deliver a great product. And the points Steve mentioned seemed reasonable to me...
- danudey 16y ago
  I would say yes. From experiences with Adobe AIR and Java apps on Mac OS, Jobs knows that cross-platform toolkits are lowest denominator apps that don't work the way people expect them to. They're sometimes tolerable out of necessity, but they're never best-in-class, and they're often completely intolerable, unreliable, slow, and buggy. As an example, I refuse to use Tweetdeck on the Mac, because even though it does exactly what I want from a Twitter client, it doesn't behave at all like a Mac app should. It uses too much memory, it's slow, it's crashy, and the keyboard shortcuts for moving around text fields, that I use in every other app, don't work. Instead I use Tweetie, which does almost none of what I want (except showing and making tweets), but behaves the way an app should, so it's less jarring to use.

ajross 16y ago

So this is all about Steve trying earnestly and selflessly to create the best platform possible, and not about trying to eliminate competition to his dominant platform by disallowing portable application environments? I swear, I used to think the reality distortion field was a dumb metaphor...

tom_ilsinszki 16y ago
You might be right about my vision being distorted, and I will think about that, but just so you understand me correctly: I did not say anything about selflessness. I have no doubt, that every move Apple makes is a business move; still, I don't think they only want to make money. They want to make money and deliver a great product. And the points Steve mentioned seemed reasonable to me...
danudey 16y ago
I would say yes. From experiences with Adobe AIR and Java apps on Mac OS, Jobs knows that cross-platform toolkits are lowest denominator apps that don't work the way people expect them to. They're sometimes tolerable out of necessity, but they're never best-in-class, and they're often completely intolerable, unreliable, slow, and buggy. As an example, I refuse to use Tweetdeck on the Mac, because even though it does exactly what I want from a Twitter client, it doesn't behave at all like a Mac app should. It uses too much memory, it's slow, it's crashy, and the keyboard shortcuts for moving around text fields, that I use in every other app, don't work. Instead I use Tweetie, which does almost none of what I want (except showing and making tweets), but behaves the way an app should, so it's less jarring to use.