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John Gruber has been making these exact points. This could basically be ghost written by Gruber and we wouldn't know the difference.
by tjogin 17y ago
John Gruber has been making these exact points. This could basically be ghost written by Gruber and we wouldn't know the difference.
- gstar 17y agoI've often wondered if Gruber's reliable contact at Apple was some guy with turtlenecks and no numberplates.
- treblig 17y agoHe did throw up this little Tweet a couple nights ago: http://twitter.com/gruber/status/12988151829 http://twitter.com/gruber/status/12988151829
- Timothee 17y agoAnd he did it at 9:42pm, iPhone's preferred (evening) time. (http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1250125 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=1250125)
- wallflower 17y agoI think Gruber remains independent from Apple. It would be too conspiracy theory for Gruber/Daring Fireball to be a secret PR mouthpiece for Apple. More likely Apple reaches out to him because he is by far the most influential Apple website outside of Apple (MacRumors is a distant 2nd in my opinion). They don't have to pay Gruber anything; the increased ad revenue from being a member of the elite The Deck should more than compensate.
- maximilian 17y agoMore likely Apple reaches out to him because he is by far the most influential Apple website outside of Apple I also think he is one of the most levelheaded apple-centric websites out there. Gruber talks a lot about premium products (not just apple) and their success in various markets -- DF is like a premium tech/apple/good taste blogzine and I imagine that his style appeals to a lot of people at Apple, whether they reach out to him or not (and "legally" or not)
- slantyyz 17y agoGruber is fantastic when he's not in "scandal" mode. The site quality degrades significantly, however, when he latches onto a "scandal", whether it be about stolen iphones or illegitimate wi-fi security claims. With his recent ad nauseum stolen phone coverage, DF has felt more like an overwrought Entertainment Tonight scandal episode. I've found the best Gruber reading algorithm is: if (post < 2 paragraphs) { worth bookmarking } else { mark as read }
- treblig 17y agoKeep in mind, he lives in Philadelphia, where it was 12:42am.
- jjs 17y agoI'm sure he operates strictly on Cupertino time. ;)
- thought_alarm 17y agoBecause they're obvious points to make. Apple's competitors have been clamoring to put Flash on their mobile devices because it's one more bullet point they can use in their marketing against the iPhone. Yet it's 2010 and mobile Flash is still nowhere to be found. How is that not Adobe's fault?
- tjogin 17y agoI agree, but a hell of a lot of people are missing these obvious points, though. Most people with an opinion on Apple are.
- barrkel 17y agoDon't lose sight of the issue. 3.3.1 is the issue, not "Flash on the iPhone". By reframing the argument as "Flash on the iPhone", you are succumbing to misdirection.
- pyre 17y agoTrue enough. And Cocoa Touch is not an 'open standard.'
- davidedicillo 17y agoJobs never said that Cocoa is an open standard. He just state that Flash is as proprietary as Cocoa Touch. Market share =! Open. His point is that on the mobile web, HTML5 is open, not Flash.
- pyre 17y agoSo "Flash on the Web == Bad" because it's not open, but "Flash cross-compiled apps on iPhone == Bad" because it's not... open... ? The logic doesn't match up. As has been stated, it's a misdirection. Steve Jobs is setting fire to a house on the west side of town so that no one will notice that he's robbing the bank on the east side. He's trying to come off as an 'open crusader for the web against Adobe' because 'Adobe is not open,' but on the other hand shoving Adobe (and others) off of the i{Phone,Pad} platform because it's not part of Apple's own 'not open' environment. I hate Adobe as much as the next person, but let's not dress Steve Jobs up as a knight in shining armour just because he also doesn't like Adobe.
- jerf 17y agoGruber is really Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs is really Fake Steve Jobs. Fake Steve Jobs is actually Bill Gates.
- grellas 17y agoThe latest from Fake Steve on this piece: http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/04/please-stop-thinking-about-gizmodo-doors-being-broken-down-etc.html http://www.fakesteve.net/2010/04/please-stop-thinking-about-....
- lionhearted 17y agoOh man, I almost spit my tea out laughing at that. Wow.
- rogermugs 17y agotea is proprietary. we're more interested in an open standard like beer at apple.
- varaon 17y agoFake Steve raises an interesting point about how close John Gruber and Apple are. >"...we leaked the Flash essay to our Chief Apologist John Gruber and told him to start whipping up some buzz on Twitter about it, and he followed orders [http://twitter.com/gruber/status/12988151829 http://twitter.com/gruber/status/12988151829]." Consider too that Steve Jobs replied to an email asking about the restriction of apps to C* with a link to a Gruber post [http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2010/04/steve-jobs-response-on-section-3-3-1/ http://www.taoeffect.com/blog/2010/04/steve-jobs-response-on...].
- ericb 17y agoI'd argue that the real Steve Jobs is Bill Gates, lately. Maybe Monopolies (essentially) do that to people.
- megablast 17y ago