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I don't buy this at all, although some of the reasoning is sound there's some jaw-dropping rubbish in this statement. esp. around 'openess'. This is one big red

I don't buy this at all, although some of the reasoning is sound there's some jaw-dropping rubbish in this statement. esp. around 'openess'. This is one big red herring - Adobe pissed Jobs off, this is his revenge, end of story.

betageek 16y ago
Wow, when did HN become all Apple fanboys, all the time? - I thought this was supposed to be a rational argument but it seems as long as Jobs is destroying Flash he's ok with everyone, even while he's locking down the rest of his platform.
- jacquesm 16y ago
  > Wow, when did HN become all Apple fanboys, all the time? Not all the time, but I think it's quite telling that a gushing 'I love this, with a slight reservation' gets 150 upvotes and you are sitting here at the maximum downvotes for simply stating your opinion. Yuck.
  - loup-vaillant 16y ago
    Maybe most people on this thread are just blind. Blind to he "Treacherous Computing" which is applied to the iPhone and the iPad. Blind to the fact that these devices are fully fledged computers. Blind to the fact they wouldn't like to be locked out of their desktop PC in the same way. Apple pulled out quite an American dream here: they made a sleek product, and were wildly successful. On top of that, they spurred a new gold rush (the App store lottery). So, Apple looks great on the short term. On the long term, however, they make steps towards a society few would like. (Did you saw the mention to the "PC era" at the end? This is probably the most dangerous thing in the whole post. Yet it went unnoticed.) The problem is, few think long term (it is dismissed as "idealism"). Most prefer short term (calling it "practicality"). HN is just no exception. (Opinions like "privacy is worthless" or "the BSD licence is more free than the GPL" are both short term-based, for instance.)

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I don't buy this at all, although some of the reasoning is sound there's some jaw-dropping rubbish in this statement. esp. around 'openess'. This is one big red

by betageek 16y ago

betageek 16y ago
Wow, when did HN become all Apple fanboys, all the time? - I thought this was supposed to be a rational argument but it seems as long as Jobs is destroying Flash he's ok with everyone, even while he's locking down the rest of his platform.
- jacquesm 16y ago
  > Wow, when did HN become all Apple fanboys, all the time? Not all the time, but I think it's quite telling that a gushing 'I love this, with a slight reservation' gets 150 upvotes and you are sitting here at the maximum downvotes for simply stating your opinion. Yuck.
  - loup-vaillant 16y ago
    Maybe most people on this thread are just blind. Blind to he "Treacherous Computing" which is applied to the iPhone and the iPad. Blind to the fact that these devices are fully fledged computers. Blind to the fact they wouldn't like to be locked out of their desktop PC in the same way. Apple pulled out quite an American dream here: they made a sleek product, and were wildly successful. On top of that, they spurred a new gold rush (the App store lottery). So, Apple looks great on the short term. On the long term, however, they make steps towards a society few would like. (Did you saw the mention to the "PC era" at the end? This is probably the most dangerous thing in the whole post. Yet it went unnoticed.) The problem is, few think long term (it is dismissed as "idealism"). Most prefer short term (calling it "practicality"). HN is just no exception. (Opinions like "privacy is worthless" or "the BSD licence is more free than the GPL" are both short term-based, for instance.)