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So now you want to force businesses to associate with businesses they don't want to associate with and you're calling them totalitarian?

by tedajax 10y ago

tomohawk 10y ago
Of course not. But cutting ties and making baseless accusations? This is false shaming and participating in a false narrative. This is exactly how totalitarianism takes hold.
- tedajax 10y ago
  No totalitarianism tends to happen when you have a state run media apparatus which is run by a media mogul with a position close to a demagogue leader who has floated the idea of not giving press credentials to other media organizations. Starting to sound a little familiar?
  - tomohawk 10y ago
    Yes. http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-hillary-clinton-restricts-the-press-2014-7 http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-hillary-clinton-res...
briandear 10y ago
How about businesses being forced to do business with individuals that hold views with which the owners of those businesses disagree. A wedding cake baker chosing not to make a cake for a gay couple gets crucified and held legally liable -- yet the same exact behavior when an ad network chooses to do business with a company holding ideas with which they disagree -- that's allowed? I personally think businesses should be allowed to discriminate for any reason -- the marketplace can answer that discrimination by not supporting those businesses.
- kristjansson 10y ago
  There's a bit of a difference between discriminating against a human on the basis of a immutable aspect of their person and one media business refusing to associate with another media business on the basis of their content. I'll admit, your solution sounds nice, but how do you account for regions where the market supports discriminatory businesses and ostracizes marginal groups?
um_ya 10y ago
It wasn't too long ago that liberals were screaming that a cake company that refused to make a cake for a gay wedding "has" to make the cakes for them... I agree, the business owner should have the sole discretion of who to do business with, but don't be two faced about it.

So now you want to force businesses to associate with businesses they don't want to associate with and you're calling them totalitarian?

by tedajax 10y ago

So now you want to force businesses to associate with businesses they don't want to associate with and you're calling them totalitarian?

tomohawk 10y ago

Of course not. But cutting ties and making baseless accusations? This is false shaming and participating in a false narrative. This is exactly how totalitarianism takes hold.

tedajax 10y ago
No totalitarianism tends to happen when you have a state run media apparatus which is run by a media mogul with a position close to a demagogue leader who has floated the idea of not giving press credentials to other media organizations. Starting to sound a little familiar?
- tomohawk 10y ago
  Yes. http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-hillary-clinton-restricts-the-press-2014-7 http://www.businessinsider.com/heres-how-hillary-clinton-res...

briandear 10y ago

How about businesses being forced to do business with individuals that hold views with which the owners of those businesses disagree. A wedding cake baker chosing not to make a cake for a gay couple gets crucified and held legally liable -- yet the same exact behavior when an ad network chooses to do business with a company holding ideas with which they disagree -- that's allowed? I personally think businesses should be allowed to discriminate for any reason -- the marketplace can answer that discrimination by not supporting those businesses.

kristjansson 10y ago
There's a bit of a difference between discriminating against a human on the basis of a immutable aspect of their person and one media business refusing to associate with another media business on the basis of their content. I'll admit, your solution sounds nice, but how do you account for regions where the market supports discriminatory businesses and ostracizes marginal groups?

um_ya 10y ago

It wasn't too long ago that liberals were screaming that a cake company that refused to make a cake for a gay wedding "has" to make the cakes for them... I agree, the business owner should have the sole discretion of who to do business with, but don't be two faced about it.