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Yes, it's wrong for a candidate who is down in the polls to start screaming "rigged" before a single vote is cast. Yes, it's alright for people after an electi

Yes, it's wrong for a candidate who is down in the polls to start screaming "rigged" before a single vote is cast. Yes, it's alright for people after an election to make an informed assertion that things look irregular and should be double checked. Yes, it's alright to have a recount even if we think and hope it will change or reveal nothing, especially since it's funded by private donations. These things are in no way incompatible.

Alex3917 10y ago
> Yes, it's wrong for a candidate who is down in the polls to start screaming "rigged" before a single vote is cast. Democrats were lobbying against secured voting machines and paper ballots for weeks before the election, including on Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12728167 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12728167 Even if the election was rigged against the Democrats, it's not like it wasn't completely deserved. You don't get to oppose attempts to prevent election fraud before the election and then complain about election fraud afterwards.
- danso 10y ago
  I clicked through the link. Where are the examples of HN democrats "lobbying against secured voting machines and paper ballots"? I see HN users decrying Trump's vague self-serving complaints, but nothing against secure voting. Just because I hate sloppy programmers who blindly say that a program is probably going to crash because that's what programs "just do" but it doesn't mean I'm against testing or error handling.
  - Alex3917 10y ago
    > I see HN users decrying Trump's vague self-serving complaints By responding to Trump's accusations by saying that the election wasn't rigged or hackable, Democrats undermined all of the folks who were actually trying to fix these issues. It doesn't matter if Trump said the election was rigged 'for the wrong reasons' or whatever, saying that the election wasn't hackable was absolutely the worst possible response.
paulddraper 10y ago
> Yes, it's wrong for a candidate who is down in the polls to start screaming "rigged" before a single vote is cast. Even if the polls are rigged?
- sigmar 10y ago
  Trump said the election was rigged (specifically saying the polling places are rigged: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/787699930718695425 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/78769993071869542...) and refused to say whether he would accept the results.

Alex3917 10y ago

> Yes, it's wrong for a candidate who is down in the polls to start screaming "rigged" before a single vote is cast. Democrats were lobbying against secured voting machines and paper ballots for weeks before the election, including on Hacker News: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12728167 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12728167 Even if the election was rigged against the Democrats, it's not like it wasn't completely deserved. You don't get to oppose attempts to prevent election fraud before the election and then complain about election fraud afterwards.

danso 10y ago
I clicked through the link. Where are the examples of HN democrats "lobbying against secured voting machines and paper ballots"? I see HN users decrying Trump's vague self-serving complaints, but nothing against secure voting. Just because I hate sloppy programmers who blindly say that a program is probably going to crash because that's what programs "just do" but it doesn't mean I'm against testing or error handling.
- Alex3917 10y ago
  > I see HN users decrying Trump's vague self-serving complaints By responding to Trump's accusations by saying that the election wasn't rigged or hackable, Democrats undermined all of the folks who were actually trying to fix these issues. It doesn't matter if Trump said the election was rigged 'for the wrong reasons' or whatever, saying that the election wasn't hackable was absolutely the worst possible response.

paulddraper 10y ago

> Yes, it's wrong for a candidate who is down in the polls to start screaming "rigged" before a single vote is cast. Even if the polls are rigged?

sigmar 10y ago
Trump said the election was rigged (specifically saying the polling places are rigged: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/787699930718695425 https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/78769993071869542...) and refused to say whether he would accept the results.