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Just want to mention that actual communism has never been implemented on any significant scale, the Soviet Union for example never reached communism, arguably n
by tekni5 10y ago
Just want to mention that actual communism has never been implemented on any significant scale, the Soviet Union for example never reached communism, arguably never even really reached socialism.
Marx suggested that communism will only emerge after the failure of capitalism. Every single communist regime has ignored this idea.
While I agree that many countries who have followed communist ideas have done some horrible things, the same can be said for every other system, including the current system we have now.
Furthermore pure capitalism has never really been tried either, because it begins to fail and government intervention is needed very quickly.
Actual communism doesn't really mean dictatorship, I think we might see a comeback of ideas related to communism & command style economies in the future. Especially if we start implementing Strong AI to better manage resources and trade. I could see a future where free market may not exist in the form we have it now, instead there might be a system focused on harm reduction managed by various planning systems, better and more careful resource allocation, etc.
Let's not forget that communist ideas also allowed many countries to industrialize rather quickly.
- nzmsv 10y agoWhat's even better is that the very same people who say things like "communism is inexcusable" support the idea of universal income.
- oblio 10y agoTheoretical communism is useless and this "no true Scotsman" argument is useless, at least for the foreseeable future. How is communism going to handle malicious parties, since there's no ownership? How is communism going to handle needs for abstract needs, such as those for services? Marx didn't really think things through. You don't need strong AI, you need the singularity to centrally plan humanity. Until then you need to allow freedom of action for individual actors, i.e. rule of law + market economies.
- witty_username 10y agoCentral planning is very hard due to hidden preferences. People aren't going to say "I want more loli hentai".
- tekni5 10y agoThe principles of communism aren't that different from capitalism, you work and get rewarded, the same way it happens right now. Communism is simply a system that places limits on individuals so that they do not exploit others and so they do not own the means of production. To avoid a concentration of resources/wealth for a small group of the population, because by just pure ownership and wealth such individuals can enslave humanity. In my personal opinion, I don't think that if communism ever emerges it will be through forced means as it was before, I think it will occur naturally where Capitalism will simply fail in certain areas and the system will need to change. For example say in 100 years, climate change causes enormous damage worldwide in various aspects of life. At this point perhaps governments will realize we can't just exploit raw resources, pollute and allow people to do what they want, so new economic systems emerge that utilize central planning and needs based production and distribution as to avoid harm, it will no longer be simply market driven. Just a rough example, of what could happen.