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> When you buy a beer for your friends at a bar and maybe next week they buy a round, that's communism. Communism is a central part of western society. Communi
by elcapitan 10y ago
> When you buy a beer for your friends at a bar and maybe next week they buy a round, that's communism. Communism is a central part of western society.
Communism is when you and your friends go to a bar and there is no beer, because there was not enough grain produced on command of the central planning committee 4 years ago. Now you and your friends are upset and complain about it, so you get arrested and locked up without trial because you are betraying communist ideals.
- redial 10y agoSure, communism might be a bad idea, but why is it so unforgivable? specially when is not your country? And it's not like nobody got locked up in the 50s without a hint of a trial just for the suspicion of being 'communist' and betraying the capitalistic ideals.
- justicezyx 10y agoThis is a good joke, but unfortunately, is not an accurate description of communism. As the parent comment suggests, there were no real communism nation on earth ever. """ In political and social sciences, communism (from Latin communis, "common, universal")[1][2] is a social, political, and economic ideology and movement whose ultimate goal is the establishment of the communist society, which is a socioeconomic order structured upon the common ownership of the means of production and the absence of social classes, money,[3][4] and the state.[5][6] """ [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism
- elcapitan 10y agoThat's like saying that there are no capitalist societies by claiming that capitalism is some higher, perfect ideal which has just not been implemented yet perfectly. Or calling the outcome of christian rule in the middle ages "not really christian" by comparing it to a biblical description of heaven. If there are people who call themselves communists and they create societies, then "communism" should be judged on that.
- runesoerensen 10y ago> If there are people who call themselves communists and they create societies, then "communism" should be judged on that. That's not how it works; some terrorists may call themselves muslims and even form "Islamic" societies, but I hope you'll agree that muslims and Islam shouldn't be judged on their actions. The same goes for Christianity.
- elcapitan 10y agoI think christianity should be judged on having overcome those terrible crimes of the past. Islam should be judged on whether it can overcome islamism. And communism should be judged on having failed to deliver a society worth living in.
- grzm 10y agoThis thread is going to get hot enough on politics alone. Perhaps we can try to leave religion out of it?