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There's a great example of this now. Uber drivers. There are a lot of people out there with a lot of free time who are willing to work for very little. Maybe

by dpweb 10y ago

There's a great example of this now. Uber drivers. There are a lot of people out there with a lot of free time who are willing to work for very little. Maybe the Govt should make an app that people can use their phone to sign up and do jobs like cleaning up parks etc.. and the Govt can pay them.

djKianoosh 10y ago
this would be lovely, but it's utopian. uber drivers drive someone to a place, and if they dont they dont get paid. the sorts of jobs you're talking about arent always all so clearly verified/verifiable. you'd need other government workers just to verify that the job was done properly... ufff I can see the waste now
- chadscira 10y ago
  Also those jobs wont be around that long. Every year we have quite a bit of progress on Self-Driving Cars.
- dpweb 10y ago
  Drones verify the leaves were raked etc..
  - tonyedgecombe 10y ago
    Where we reach the singularity not through the progress of machines but by the decline of our own abilities.
  - PeterisP 10y ago
    It's just as hard or possibly even simpler to just make drones that pick up litter and robots that rake leaves. The problem with large scale low skilled jobs (e.g. fast food) becoming automated is that these jobs aren't really special as jobs, even if they have a very important socioeconomic role in our society - it's not yet cost effective to automate them, but when it will, then at the same time (roughly speaking, +/- 10 years) all other low skilled jobs will be ripe for automation as well. A good semi-trailer truck driver will have his job for years to come, but when it does happen, then all the reasonable jobs to which he could currently shift would have their own downsizing due to their own automation and an excessive supply potential workers of poor ex-drivers who were shed years before the good driver.

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There's a great example of this now. Uber drivers. There are a lot of people out there with a lot of free time who are willing to work for very little. Maybe

by dpweb 10y ago

djKianoosh 10y ago
this would be lovely, but it's utopian. uber drivers drive someone to a place, and if they dont they dont get paid. the sorts of jobs you're talking about arent always all so clearly verified/verifiable. you'd need other government workers just to verify that the job was done properly... ufff I can see the waste now
- chadscira 10y ago
  Also those jobs wont be around that long. Every year we have quite a bit of progress on Self-Driving Cars.
- dpweb 10y ago
  Drones verify the leaves were raked etc..
  - tonyedgecombe 10y ago
    Where we reach the singularity not through the progress of machines but by the decline of our own abilities.
  - PeterisP 10y ago
    It's just as hard or possibly even simpler to just make drones that pick up litter and robots that rake leaves. The problem with large scale low skilled jobs (e.g. fast food) becoming automated is that these jobs aren't really special as jobs, even if they have a very important socioeconomic role in our society - it's not yet cost effective to automate them, but when it will, then at the same time (roughly speaking, +/- 10 years) all other low skilled jobs will be ripe for automation as well. A good semi-trailer truck driver will have his job for years to come, but when it does happen, then all the reasonable jobs to which he could currently shift would have their own downsizing due to their own automation and an excessive supply potential workers of poor ex-drivers who were shed years before the good driver.